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Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
Where is that info ? Where Fiore is supposedly talking about the Westside admin. And Onofrio ? Is this new info in a new document or was this back when Fiore was with Anthony MegaleChucky wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 amWhat difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
Fucking weird how he can't fathom itChucky wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 amWhat difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
It's in the indictment or one of the fed complaints, I think it said Fiore & Campos met with Falcetti after Cali was killed.Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:11 amWhere is that info ? Where Fiore is supposedly talking about the Westside admin. And Onofrio ? Is this new info in a new document or was this back when Fiore was with Anthony MegaleChucky wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 amWhat difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
Fucko. Hush.TommyGambino wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:33 amFucking weird how he can't fathom itChucky wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 amWhat difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking too?Chucky wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 amWhat difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pmSeriously?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pmYet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.
And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?
But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?
Sure.
But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:53 am Made guys are strictly forbidden to discuss family matters with non made associates. Especially concerning administration.
I don't think you should take this one example and apply it across the entire NY mob landscape. Maybe Onofrio didn't know the Admin because it was in flux or for some other reason. Most top guys want people to know their spot, it's part of the power. The Genovese have definitely had some guys who preferred to hide in the shadows but I think that's more the exception than the rule. I wonder if they still lay out to new initiates the Administrations of all the families like they use to. In the mob you have to know who is who in order to show proper respect and to function at basic levels.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:53 am
I think it’s quite understandable that Muscarella might be the UB. I’m not saying he’s not.
I simply think it’s inconsistent logically that Onofrio, a longtime trusted member and later Capo, didn’t even know his own families administration, but a member from another family does?