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TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
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TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
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The New York Sun

P. Diddy and His Gangster
By JERRY CAPECI
June 16, 2005
Nearly two decades after they were teammates on an overachieving high school football team, rap music mogul Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and Gambino gangster Andrew Campos have each achieved riches and renown in their chosen fields.

In 1986, as seniors at Mount St. Michael Academy in the Bronx, they played on a football team with "commitment and attitude" that surprised the pundits and won a division title for the prestigious prep school. Campos was quarterback, Combs a defensive back.

Today, after following a path that has occasionally landed him in trouble with the law, P. Diddy rakes in a reported $300 million a year. He is CEO of Bad Boy Worldwide Entertainment, has his own line of clothing, operates myriad other companies, and will soon become a wireless service provider.

Campos has also had legal problems. Next month, he will be sentenced for his role in a mob fraud case. Campos, whose surname suggests Greek or Hispanic heritage (the Gambinos checked and determined his lineage was Italian before inducting him), has made his money primarily in the telecommunications industry. He was part of the largest consumer fraud in American history, one that cost unwary consumers a cool $750 million from related schemes involving phone sex and Internet porn.

Through it all, P. Diddy, 34, and Campos, 35, have remained close friends and confidantes, according to Mount St. Michael alumni, law enforcement sources, and official court records obtained by Gang Land.

On more than one occasion, sources say, Campos and other wiseguys have attended recording sessions as P. Diddy's guests.

Last year, on the day Gang Land reported that Campos had been indicted in a "telephone cramming" scheme that grossed up to $600,000 a day, Gambino capo Gregory DePalma informed a Florida associate about the indictment by linking it to a prior trip that P. Diddy and Campos had made to the Sunshine State.

The February 12, 2004, conversation was picked up during a two-year FBI undercover investigation that led to racketeering and other charges against DePalma and 34 others, including three doctors, earlier this year.

"You know the guy you had there with P. Diddy? ... He got pinched, you know," DePalma said. He then read the names of "various Gambino family members and associates, including Andrew Campos," assistant U.S. attorneys Edward O'Callahan and Christopher Conniff wrote in a report to Manhattan Federal Judge John Keenan.

On a previous trip to meet P. Diddy in Florida, sources said, Campos was accompanied by soldier Louis "Bo" Filipelli, who, along with DePalma, was indicted on racketeering charges in March. The New York mobsters never linked up with P. Diddy.

"It was supposed to be a social get-together, but it never came off," a source said.

Two years ago, after Filipelli opened the Pleasant Avenue Cafe, an East Harlem restaurant at the corner of 118th Street, Campos called on his old teammate to show up and give his buddy Bo's place a boost, a request that P. Diddy honored, according to sources on both sides of the law.

During that same period, between July and October 2003, according to the indictment, Filipelli, DePalma, and others were shaking down WKTU radio station for free ads for the restaurant, which closed its doors less than a year after they opened.

"I can't say that he was there, but it wouldn't surprise me. Puff is pretty easygoing about these things, and he often goes to Harlem," a spokesman for P. Diddy, Rob Shuter, said. He added that P. Diddy has fond memories of Mount St. Michael and his high school buddies.

P. Diddy is not alleged, either in court papers or by law enforcement sources, to have engaged in any wrongdoing in any of his dealings with Campos.

When he pleaded guilty, Campos, who faces 27 months at sentencing and has agreed to pay a $300,000 fine (technically called a forfeiture), blanched when Judge Carol Amon informed him she could order him to make restitution of $100 million.

"I can never come anywhere near that. I'm having trouble paying this fine," he said.

"And then," Judge Amon said, "there's the $100 special assessment."

"That I can afford," Campos chirped, meekly adding "yes" after Judge Amon sarcastically asked the millionaire mob scam artist if he were sure he would be able to handle the mandatory $100 fee.

During less complicated high school days, Campos was selected as the first team quarterback of the 1986 Daily News Bronx/Manhattan All-Star team. He ran his team's wishbone offense like a pro, running for nine touchdowns and throwing for seven more, leading the Mountaineers to a 9-1 record. The team's only loss was in the Catholic High School Football League championship game, by a touchdown.

P. Diddy, who earned his Puff nickname by puffing out his chest to make himself look stronger than he was, was a good defensive back but played more as a junior than he did as a senior, the team's head coach for the last 26 years, Mario Valentini, recalled.

"What happened was that we had a kid who was a transfer from Canada who was a very good athlete, and I had to play the best athlete," Mr. Valentini said, almost apologetically.

During the 1990s, the Mountaineers were CHSFL champs three times, but Mr. Valentini remembers that 1986 team as something special, even though they were one touchdown short in the championship game: "We had really good team chemistry, and it carried us a long way," he said.

***

Peter J. Gotti, younger son of the late Dapper Don - and beloved "Uncle Pete" to sister Victoria's three Hotti Gottis on "Growing Up Gotti" - is now an official mob associate and member of brother Junior's mob crew, according to Manhattan federal prosecutors.

This news comes as "Uncle Pete" has been getting more exposure as an, ahem, actor, on A&E's so-called reality show in a variety of endeavors with his nephews, from helping them get dates to deep sea fishing and paintball fights.

Peter was elevated in mob status on word from FBI informants that he was his brother's keeper "on the street, specifically collecting money from a number of different sources," assistant U.S. attorneys Joon Kim and Jennifer Rodgers wrote, in explaining why the FBI planned to eavesdrop on Peter's jailhouse conversations with Junior last year.

During a May 7, 2004, conversation between the brothers, Junior trashed several Gambino wiseguys, including consigliere Joseph Corozzo, for whom Junior has "no respect," as well as mob defectors whom prosecutors plan to call at his upcoming trial for the attempted murder of the Guardian Angels founder, Curtis Sliwa.

In one ironic discussion, Junior said he had just received a message from the Bonanno boss, Joseph Massino, that his turncoat brother-in-law Salvatore Vitale was a "lying rat" who had implicated Junior in the "Bonnie and Clyde" murders of a husband and wife team that had robbed Gambino and Bonanno family social clubs in the early 1990s.

Junior denied allegations that he "was in the room with Vitale" and Massino when the murders of Thomas and Rosemarie Uva were discussed, saying he "took a walk with Vitale."

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Now that Massino has joined Vitale as a cooperating witness, it doesn't really matter whether Junior was in the room with Massino or taking a walk with Vitale. The brothers-in-law have each told the feds that Junior took credit for the Uva murders, sources say
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
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Chucky wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
Where is that info ? Where Fiore is supposedly talking about the Westside admin. And Onofrio ? Is this new info in a new document or was this back when Fiore was with Anthony Megale
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Chucky wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
Fucking weird how he can't fathom it
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Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:11 am
Chucky wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
Where is that info ? Where Fiore is supposedly talking about the Westside admin. And Onofrio ? Is this new info in a new document or was this back when Fiore was with Anthony Megale
It's in the indictment or one of the fed complaints, I think it said Fiore & Campos met with Falcetti after Cali was killed.
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Ok , Now I remember. Where they met at the diner with Louie Jet Gampero and Falcetti was outside the diner or something
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3-29-01
$3.4M Federal Scam Rap. Reputed mobster & 10 charged with mortgage fraud.
Thursday, March 29, 2001

By ROBERT GEARTY
New York Daily News Staff Writer

A reputed member of organized crime and 10 other people engineered a mortgage scam that defrauded the federal government out of $3.4 million, Manhattan prosecutors charged yesterday.

Reputed Luchese crime family capo Ray Argentina and the others were charged with racketeering, mail fraud, wire fraud and bank fraud in a 61-page indictment unsealed in Manhattan Federal Court.

Argentina, 45, of Islip Terrace, L.I., was ordered held without bail after a prosecutor told U.S. District Court Judge John Martin that Argentina "scares the daylights out of everyone."

The prosecutor, Jonathan Etra, also said of Argentina: "He doesn't have a job; he's a full-time mobster."

Martin also held without bail Argentina's longtime friend and alleged accomplice, Louis (Louie Jet) Gampero, a 42-year-old Massapequa, L.I., man with a tow-truck business in Brooklyn.

In urging that no bail be set for Gampero, Etra played excerpts of conversations the government had recorded between Gampero and a mortgage broker and the mortgage broker's wife.

The conversations were recorded after Gampero had allegedly beaten up the broker, fracturing his ribs.

In the conversations, an enraged Gampero is heard wildly cursing and threatening violence.

"Tell him to get in touch with me or move out of the country," Gampero tells the wife.

Both men pleaded not guilty through their attorney, David Breitbart of Manhattan.

"I always get suspicious when an indictment weighs more than a pound and a half," he said.

Etra said in court that the mortgage scam was done through a transaction known as "flip financing," in which a home is sold and then quickly resold for an exorbitant profit.

The prosecutor said the scheme involved pumping up the appraised value of a home to obtain mortgages backed by the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.

He said six properties were involved in the scam, three in Brooklyn and three on Long Island.

Participants in the fraud included a HUD-approved real estate appraiser, the owner of a title search company and a real estate broker, each of whom were named in the indictment.

The indictment alleges that one of the homes in Central Islip, L.I., also was used as a cocaine stash house.. INFO ON LOUIE JET GAMPERO
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https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontlin ... mpero.html. LINK ON CHARLIE GAMPERO JR. BROOKLYN BOWLING ALLEY MURDER CHARGE
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TommyGambino wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:33 am
Chucky wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
Fucking weird how he can't fathom it
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Chucky wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:19 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:14 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:12 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:02 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:26 pm These guys aren't the cia ffs
Thanks.
Great contribution.
Yet Dom Violi on tape regarding Buffalo is gospel to you...does it make it a fact that Muscarella is UB? Absolutely fucking not but he wouldn't say it for no reason and it sounds like he knows him as pogo says, who knows how close he is to Muscarella or his guys? Like i said, if Capeci said this you'd accept it but an actual made member? Odd
Seriously?
An appointed Underboss speaking about his position and his own family is SLIGHTLY different from a Gambino member talking to an associate about the WESTSIDE ADMINISTRATION.
Dude.

And 'He wouldnt say it for no reason?' Thats a premise assuming that every bit of conjecture, gossip, speculation by anyone associated with the mafia should be taken as gospel. You want to run with that?
Again, dude?

But Im sure that Onofro not even knowing his own families administration but a G button talking to an associate solves the riddle eh?


Sure.

But he's a 'made member' right? Well in that case Ill just ask a a member of the columbo family what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Cause he's made and should know right?
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking to? Fiore is a Bronx based Gambino member who, according to the fed document, was in contact with Falcetti, a Bronx based Genovese capo. I don’t think it’s a stretch to take Fiore at his word.
What difference does it make who Fiore is talking too?
Made guys are strictly forbidden to discuss family matters with non made associates. Especially concerning administration.

I think it’s quite understandable that Muscarella might be the UB. I’m not saying he’s not.
I simply think it’s inconsistent logically that Onofrio, a longtime trusted member and later Capo, didn’t even know his own families administration, but a member from another family does?

I simply think that’s cause for suspicion.

I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:53 am Made guys are strictly forbidden to discuss family matters with non made associates. Especially concerning administration.

Yeah that rule was never followed. Just as an example Acting Capo Greg DePalma was spilling his guts about the family and the administration to an Associate he had just met (undercover fed Jack Garcia). Going back further Lefty Ruggiero did the same with Joe Pistone despite barely knowing the guy. Countless examples of made guys, even high ranking guys, being pretty open about the organization with non members.


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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:53 am
I think it’s quite understandable that Muscarella might be the UB. I’m not saying he’s not.
I simply think it’s inconsistent logically that Onofrio, a longtime trusted member and later Capo, didn’t even know his own families administration, but a member from another family does?
I don't think you should take this one example and apply it across the entire NY mob landscape. Maybe Onofrio didn't know the Admin because it was in flux or for some other reason. Most top guys want people to know their spot, it's part of the power. The Genovese have definitely had some guys who preferred to hide in the shadows but I think that's more the exception than the rule. I wonder if they still lay out to new initiates the Administrations of all the families like they use to. In the mob you have to know who is who in order to show proper respect and to function at basic levels.
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