by maxiestern11 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:34 am
Confederate wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:19 am
maxiestern11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:10 am
During the 1950-60’s era, LE said commission size would vary, but that 9-12 members was possible and sometimes utilized depending upon the situation at hand. For instance, the early 60’s era you speak of was the Gallo-Profaci War era. Ray Patriarca was indeed a Steady commission member. He was integral to negotiations at that time relative to a “peace” settlement between warring factions.(remember Nicky Bianco).
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Also, REMEMBER that “altomatically” ALL bosses across the country ARE commission members but for functionality and practicality only typically 6-9 actually sat!
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But as needed any boss could be called upon to execute commission business...... (and for that matter any “amico nostro”!
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Buffalo
The NYC Five
Chicago
Detroit
Cleveland
NE
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I thought at any given time there were no more than 9 Commission members.
There was always the New York 5 & Chicago (Who were allied with Genovese)
The other 3 would sometimes rotate? No?
Wasn't Philly in that rotation?
That is correct!... and Philly had a seat at one time.
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Buffalo and Cleveland also I believe.
- now, don’t get me wrong, from year to year, era to era, I do think it changed. In the early 1960’s I’d thought Patriarca was an active commission member (if only for the Gallo war years)..... to help smooth the situation in Brooklyn. HK could be right in that NE may not have been “permanent”! But nonetheless I do know he was integral in that era.
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IMO..... early on, the 1930’s-40’s, I feel the Commission could have even had a larger “sitting” core membership. But that’s only speculation on my behalf.
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1945-65: commission members:
Five Families
Buffalo
Chicago
Philadelphia
Detroit.......... that’s 9 members right there!
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(Possibles): or “temporary” members as needed:
New England
Cleveland (Milano)
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As you can see it’s a “shifting” dynamic, largely depending who was in power, who’s strong, who’s aligned with whom, if they were working the LV casino’s at the time, etc.......
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I could be mistaken because I do not claim to be all knowing on this subject (it has a murky history at best)!
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But this is how I understood the “commission” or top “hierarchy” to be!
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And in later years because interstate families didn’t have the same connections and businesses going with each other, over time it basically became a 5-6 family affair. With Chicago handling a sort of “mini commission” for any crews west of them
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During the 1950-60’s era, LE said commission size would vary, but that 9-12 members was possible and sometimes utilized depending upon the situation at hand. For instance, the early 60’s era you speak of was the Gallo-Profaci War era. Ray Patriarca was indeed a Steady commission member. He was integral to negotiations at that time relative to a “peace” settlement between warring factions.(remember Nicky Bianco).
-
Also, REMEMBER that “altomatically” ALL bosses across the country ARE commission members but for functionality and practicality only typically 6-9 actually sat!
-
But as needed any boss could be called upon to execute commission business...... (and for that matter any “amico nostro”!
-
Buffalo
The NYC Five
Chicago
Detroit
Cleveland
NE
?
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I thought at any given time there were no more than 9 Commission members.
There was always the New York 5 & Chicago (Who were allied with Genovese)
The other 3 would sometimes rotate? No?
Wasn't Philly in that rotation?
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That is correct!... and Philly had a seat at one time.
-
Buffalo and Cleveland also I believe.
- now, don’t get me wrong, from year to year, era to era, I do think it changed. In the early 1960’s I’d thought Patriarca was an active commission member (if only for the Gallo war years)..... to help smooth the situation in Brooklyn. HK could be right in that NE may not have been “permanent”! But nonetheless I do know he was integral in that era.
-
IMO..... early on, the 1930’s-40’s, I feel the Commission could have even had a larger “sitting” core membership. But that’s only speculation on my behalf.
——
1945-65: commission members:
Five Families
Buffalo
Chicago
Philadelphia
Detroit.......... that’s 9 members right there!
——-
(Possibles): or “temporary” members as needed:
New England
Cleveland (Milano)
-
As you can see it’s a “shifting” dynamic, largely depending who was in power, who’s strong, who’s aligned with whom, if they were working the LV casino’s at the time, etc.......
-
I could be mistaken because I do not claim to be all knowing on this subject (it has a murky history at best)!
-
But this is how I understood the “commission” or top “hierarchy” to be!
-
And in later years because interstate families didn’t have the same connections and businesses going with each other, over time it basically became a 5-6 family affair. With Chicago handling a sort of “mini commission” for any crews west of them