by HairyKnuckles » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:35 am
Frank wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:45 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:47 pm
Frank wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:15 pm
Also isn't it pretty clear in conversations that were recorded in the 1960's that Catena was acting boss and Eboli was acting Underboss.
Absolutely!
Another thing that makes me criticize what Cafaro said about this whole front boss crap is his claim (off the top of my head) saying that Vito Genovese had passed over control of the Family to Lombardo in the early 1960s when he went to jail. How plausible does that sound? It´s unbelievable that not only did Lombardo use Salerno and Tieri previously as front bosses, but also Catena and Eboli already in the early 1960s.
- In early 1969, multiple informants reported rumors that Frank Tieri would succeed Vito Genovese as boss. He was described by one as "knowledgeable, loyal ,and well-liked." The informant felt, however, that Tieri would not have "complete authority" like Genovese had, and instead he would "probably function within a commission" made up of several redacted names, all of them high-ranking Genovese members.
Yeah, that was in early 1969 when a successor to Genovese had not yet been appointed. There were of course candidates but no clear cut successor. A ruling panel must have been an option for the time being. Lombardo may very well have been part of a ruling panel (with Tieri, and a third party, sometime shortly after Eboli´s death) later on but by 1973/1974 Tieri was the official head.
When I've read the Cafaro statement when Vito went to prison in the 1960s, I always think didn't he go to prison in the 1950s. So then I always think he has other things wrong.
I think Genovese was convicted in 1958, but his conviction was not affirmed until after his appeal was turned down in Jan 1960.
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Also isn't it pretty clear in conversations that were recorded in the 1960's that Catena was acting boss and Eboli was acting Underboss.
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Absolutely!
Another thing that makes me criticize what Cafaro said about this whole front boss crap is his claim (off the top of my head) saying that Vito Genovese had passed over control of the Family to Lombardo in the early 1960s when he went to jail. How plausible does that sound? It´s unbelievable that not only did Lombardo use Salerno and Tieri previously as front bosses, but also Catena and Eboli already in the early 1960s.
- In early 1969, multiple informants reported rumors that Frank Tieri would succeed Vito Genovese as boss. He was described by one as "knowledgeable, loyal ,and well-liked." The informant felt, however, that Tieri would not have "complete authority" like Genovese had, and instead he would "probably function within a commission" made up of several redacted names, all of them high-ranking Genovese members.
Yeah, that was in early 1969 when a successor to Genovese had not yet been appointed. There were of course candidates but no clear cut successor. A ruling panel must have been an option for the time being. Lombardo may very well have been part of a ruling panel (with Tieri, and a third party, sometime shortly after Eboli´s death) later on but by 1973/1974 Tieri was the official head.
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When I've read the Cafaro statement when Vito went to prison in the 1960s, I always think didn't he go to prison in the 1950s. So then I always think he has other things wrong.
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I think Genovese was convicted in 1958, but his conviction was not affirmed until after his appeal was turned down in Jan 1960.