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Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by bn » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:27 pm

Angelo Santino wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:41 pm Do we have more information on the 19 made members of Montreal in 2002? I have six definites.
- Frank Cotroni (72y)
- Giuseppe 'Joe' Renda (43y)
- Nicolo Rizzuto (78y)
- Vito Rizzuto (56y)
- Alfonso Gagliano
- Paolo Renda.

Has any information come out about what crew these guys were with in '02:
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Soldiers (Crew Unknown)
- Vito Badamo (70y) (IP)
- Generoso 'Jimmy General' Barbieri (44y)
- Joseph Bonanno
- Salvatore Caccamise (77y)
- John 'Johnny Girone' Caltagirone (74y) (NJ) (Died 6.02?)
- Joseph 'Joe Beans' Campanella (64y)
- Michael 'Mickey Bats' Cardello (60y)
- Ronald 'Ronnie Mozzarella' Carlucci (59y)
- Salvatore 'Toto' Catalano (61y) (IP)
- Louis Civello (51y)
- Epifanio 'Frank Fauney' D'Angelo (88y)
- Vincenzo D'Antoni (59y)
- Michael 'Mike the Electrician' Donofrio
- Simone Esposito (32y) [Prob. DeSimone Crew] 
- Vincent 'Vinny Green' Faraci (47y) (Las Vegas)
- Thomas Ferreri (44y) (Las Vegas)
- James Galante (66y)
- James Genna (72y)
- John Licata (65y)
- Ronald Lorenzo (56y) (CA)
- Peter Lovaglio (41y)
- Anthony Lucido (82y)
- Salvatore Marchese (76y)
- Bari Mascitti (56y)
- Frank Messina (71y)
- Joseph Messina (88y)
- Vito 'Vic' Militano (70y)
- John 'Johnny Boy' Mirabile (41y)
- Frank 'Cheesecake' Mistretta (86y)
- Salvatore 'Sally Burns' Morale (58y)
- Charles 'Little Charlie' Musillo (76y)
- Richard 'Junkyard Richie' Musumeci (59y) (FL)
- Michael 'Mike the Watchman' Primiano (59y)
- Dominick 'Little Mimi' Sabella (91y)
- Nicholas 'Nicky Mouth' Santora (60y)
- Joseph 'Joe Curley' Taglianetti (69y) (IP)
- Joseph 'Joe T.' Taormina (55y) (Died 10.02)
- Charles 'Crazy Charlie' Travella (62y)

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Charles Musillo may have been with Patrick DeFilippo. Genna died in 1997. Small adjustment, but it appears that John 'Johnny Girone' Caltagirone didn't die until 2016. The John Caltagirone who died in June 2002 lived in Virginia.


Bari Mascitti, John Mirabile, and Generoso 'Jimmy General' Barbieri were all former Tartaglione crew members

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by Snakes » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:02 pm

willychichi wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:15 am
Chris Christie wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:11 pm Photos needed:
Carlucci, Johnny Phones
Scudiero, Salvatore
Palmiotto, Anthony
DiSario, Vincent
Miniero, Dominick
DeMaria, Michael
Lino, Joseph
Adamo, Frank
Cicala, John
Felline, Edward
Loiacano, Joseph
Bruno, Salvatore
Cacioppo, Antonio
Cammarano, Dino
Marino, Joseph
Scala, Ronald
Yannucci, Joseph
Ferrari, Thomas
Genna, James,
Licata, John
Lucido, Anthony
Marchese, Salvatore
Mascitti, Bari
Messina, Frank
Caltagirone, John
Companella, Joseph
Militano, Vito
Mistretta, Frank
Musillo, Charles
Musumeci, Richard
Primiano, Michael
D'Angelo, Epifanio
Donofrio, Michael
Taglianetti, Joseph
Taormina, Joseph
Travella, Charles
CC did the James "Jim" Genna you are looking for start out in Chicago or is that a different Genna?
Those Gennas were old-time Mafia guys that Capone went to war with over the city. Not sure if there is a connection here or not.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by B. » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:45 am

B. wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:26 pm
newera_212 wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:35 am
gohnjotti wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:29 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am is the age a little off for the guy Vito Badamo mentioned? a few years ago a Williamsburg / Greenpoint guy with the same name got busted in that Nicky Santora crew bust; he was under Santora and was allegedly being "groomed" to take over the crew, according to a daily news article quoting a wiretap. he looked in his 50s at the oldest around the time of the bust.

the one mentioned on the list above...maybe the father, or uncle, of the guy im talking about?

regardless of age im gonna take a guess that in 2002 the Badamo mentioned, and Nicky Santora, belonged to the same crew. Dunno what Rabito's position was in 02 but they're all from the same area; if Rabito was on the street and running a crew in 2002 id bet both Santora and Badamo were in it.

its also kind of shocking Santora wasnt a Capo by 2002
The Vito Badamo mentioned in 2002 is the father of acting capo Vito Badamo (Jr.) The pair both originally hailed from Providence, R.I. In the 1990s both father and son were spotted at the Grand Avenue Social Club with a lot of other mobsters from various crews.
thanks for the info. they both moved from Rhode Island together, as adults, to Brooklyn and got involved with the Bonnanos? thats kinda weird lol
The father has ties to both Rhode Island and Pennsylvania, but I believe he is originally from Williamsburg. From research a while back it looks like Vito Badamo Sr.'s father was named Vito Badamo as well and came to NYC from Castellammare del Golfo. Wouldn't surprise me if their roots go back to the early Castellammarese colony in Williamsburg.
Not positive on the Williamsburg roots, actually, but definitely Brooklyn. I found some marital connections between the Brooklyn Badamos from Castellammare Del Golfo and some Bonventres. Not positive these ones were related to the ones who would later join the Bonanno family but I believe Vito Badamo Sr. associated with the Middle Village crew which had a large number of Castellammarese.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by willychichi » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:15 am

Chris Christie wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:11 pm Photos needed:
Carlucci, Johnny Phones
Scudiero, Salvatore
Palmiotto, Anthony
DiSario, Vincent
Miniero, Dominick
DeMaria, Michael
Lino, Joseph
Adamo, Frank
Cicala, John
Felline, Edward
Loiacano, Joseph
Bruno, Salvatore
Cacioppo, Antonio
Cammarano, Dino
Marino, Joseph
Scala, Ronald
Yannucci, Joseph
Ferrari, Thomas
Genna, James,
Licata, John
Lucido, Anthony
Marchese, Salvatore
Mascitti, Bari
Messina, Frank
Caltagirone, John
Companella, Joseph
Militano, Vito
Mistretta, Frank
Musillo, Charles
Musumeci, Richard
Primiano, Michael
D'Angelo, Epifanio
Donofrio, Michael
Taglianetti, Joseph
Taormina, Joseph
Travella, Charles
CC did the James "Jim" Genna you are looking for start out in Chicago or is that a different Genna?

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by Breadman » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:31 am

Is that picture of Sal "Toto" confirmed? does not seem like him

Thanks

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by Angelo Santino » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:11 pm

Photos needed:
Carlucci, Johnny Phones
Scudiero, Salvatore
Palmiotto, Anthony
DiSario, Vincent
Miniero, Dominick
DeMaria, Michael
Lino, Joseph
Adamo, Frank
Cicala, John
Felline, Edward
Loiacano, Joseph
Bruno, Salvatore
Cacioppo, Antonio
Cammarano, Dino
Marino, Joseph
Scala, Ronald
Yannucci, Joseph
Ferrari, Thomas
Genna, James,
Licata, John
Lucido, Anthony
Marchese, Salvatore
Mascitti, Bari
Messina, Frank
Caltagirone, John
Companella, Joseph
Militano, Vito
Mistretta, Frank
Musillo, Charles
Musumeci, Richard
Primiano, Michael
D'Angelo, Epifanio
Donofrio, Michael
Taglianetti, Joseph
Taormina, Joseph
Travella, Charles

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Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by gohnjotti » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:42 pm

B is 100% right, my bad on the Providence thing. But both Vito Sr. and Jr., as well as Anthony ‘Skinny’ Santoro have ties to Providence.
I have it down in my notes that Vito Badamo Sr.’s father was connected as well, don’t know where I got that from. I’ll recheck when I get home.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by B. » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:26 pm

newera_212 wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:35 am
gohnjotti wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:29 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am is the age a little off for the guy Vito Badamo mentioned? a few years ago a Williamsburg / Greenpoint guy with the same name got busted in that Nicky Santora crew bust; he was under Santora and was allegedly being "groomed" to take over the crew, according to a daily news article quoting a wiretap. he looked in his 50s at the oldest around the time of the bust.

the one mentioned on the list above...maybe the father, or uncle, of the guy im talking about?

regardless of age im gonna take a guess that in 2002 the Badamo mentioned, and Nicky Santora, belonged to the same crew. Dunno what Rabito's position was in 02 but they're all from the same area; if Rabito was on the street and running a crew in 2002 id bet both Santora and Badamo were in it.

its also kind of shocking Santora wasnt a Capo by 2002
The Vito Badamo mentioned in 2002 is the father of acting capo Vito Badamo (Jr.) The pair both originally hailed from Providence, R.I. In the 1990s both father and son were spotted at the Grand Avenue Social Club with a lot of other mobsters from various crews.
thanks for the info. they both moved from Rhode Island together, as adults, to Brooklyn and got involved with the Bonnanos? thats kinda weird lol
The father has ties to both Rhode Island and Pennsylvania, but I believe he is originally from Williamsburg. From research a while back it looks like Vito Badamo Sr.'s father was named Vito Badamo as well and came to NYC from Castellammare del Golfo. Wouldn't surprise me if their roots go back to the early Castellammarese colony in Williamsburg.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by newera_212 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:35 am

gohnjotti wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:29 am
newera_212 wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am is the age a little off for the guy Vito Badamo mentioned? a few years ago a Williamsburg / Greenpoint guy with the same name got busted in that Nicky Santora crew bust; he was under Santora and was allegedly being "groomed" to take over the crew, according to a daily news article quoting a wiretap. he looked in his 50s at the oldest around the time of the bust.

the one mentioned on the list above...maybe the father, or uncle, of the guy im talking about?

regardless of age im gonna take a guess that in 2002 the Badamo mentioned, and Nicky Santora, belonged to the same crew. Dunno what Rabito's position was in 02 but they're all from the same area; if Rabito was on the street and running a crew in 2002 id bet both Santora and Badamo were in it.

its also kind of shocking Santora wasnt a Capo by 2002
The Vito Badamo mentioned in 2002 is the father of acting capo Vito Badamo (Jr.) The pair both originally hailed from Providence, R.I. In the 1990s both father and son were spotted at the Grand Avenue Social Club with a lot of other mobsters from various crews.
thanks for the info. they both moved from Rhode Island together, as adults, to Brooklyn and got involved with the Bonnanos? thats kinda weird lol

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by HairyKnuckles » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:59 am

Epiphano D'Angelo died in 1977.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by gohnjotti » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:29 am

newera_212 wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am is the age a little off for the guy Vito Badamo mentioned? a few years ago a Williamsburg / Greenpoint guy with the same name got busted in that Nicky Santora crew bust; he was under Santora and was allegedly being "groomed" to take over the crew, according to a daily news article quoting a wiretap. he looked in his 50s at the oldest around the time of the bust.

the one mentioned on the list above...maybe the father, or uncle, of the guy im talking about?

regardless of age im gonna take a guess that in 2002 the Badamo mentioned, and Nicky Santora, belonged to the same crew. Dunno what Rabito's position was in 02 but they're all from the same area; if Rabito was on the street and running a crew in 2002 id bet both Santora and Badamo were in it.

its also kind of shocking Santora wasnt a Capo by 2002
The Vito Badamo mentioned in 2002 is the father of acting capo Vito Badamo (Jr.) The pair both originally hailed from Providence, R.I. In the 1990s both father and son were spotted at the Grand Avenue Social Club with a lot of other mobsters from various crews.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by newera_212 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am

is the age a little off for the guy Vito Badamo mentioned? a few years ago a Williamsburg / Greenpoint guy with the same name got busted in that Nicky Santora crew bust; he was under Santora and was allegedly being "groomed" to take over the crew, according to a daily news article quoting a wiretap. he looked in his 50s at the oldest around the time of the bust.

the one mentioned on the list above...maybe the father, or uncle, of the guy im talking about?

regardless of age im gonna take a guess that in 2002 the Badamo mentioned, and Nicky Santora, belonged to the same crew. Dunno what Rabito's position was in 02 but they're all from the same area; if Rabito was on the street and running a crew in 2002 id bet both Santora and Badamo were in it.

its also kind of shocking Santora wasnt a Capo by 2002

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by Angelo Santino » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:05 pm

I'm going to keep all these "maybes" in a Misc. Members section.

For Suspected members I have:
- Dino Cammarano (44y)
- Paul 'Paulie Whitey' LNU [Confirmed member by 1980, may have been deceased by 2002]
- Joseph 'Pepe' Marino (68y)
- Salvatore Puccio (32y)
- Ronald Scala (59y)
- Anthony 'Fat Sammy' Valenti (35y) [Proposed c. Early 2000s]
- Joseph 'Augie' Yannucci (40y)

Montreal, as per JD
Probably Joseph DiMaulo and Emanuel Ragusa as well. From everything I've read there are several possibles but not many other definites. JD
I can create a "Possible Members" section for Montreal if anyone can supply a list and assist with photos.

Re: RE: Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by Lupara » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:24 pm

B. wrote:
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:43 pm Ronald Lorenzo "Kicked up no money and had more or less broken off from the Family by this point" according to JD's blog.
Looks like we need a 7th Family book about the Lorenzo Crime Family.
Eclipsing NY's five in wealth and manpower.

Re: Bonanno & Montreal soldiers circa 2002 Questions/Help

by gohnjotti » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:50 pm

B. wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:48 pm
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:43 pm Ronald Lorenzo "Kicked up no money and had more or less broken off from the Family by this point" according to JD's blog.
Looks like we need a 7th Family book about the Lorenzo Crime Family.
There are some very interesting Los Angeles Times articles about the violent home invasion ring that Lorenzo ran in the 1990s along with his shakedown of a giant, fraudulent cleaning company whilst in LA. I'll see if I can dig them up a bit later.

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