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Re: Vinnie Teresea

by Luca Brasi » Fri May 25, 2018 4:20 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 2:30 am
Luca Brasi wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 8:06 pm Teresa was a total nuisance when he was on the street. He was the guy who sat at the end of the bar with his Nose up in the air, Acting as if he was too big to be bothered. He was a brokster who talked to anyone who would listen. He did know a lot of powerful people between the Boston Area and RI. Nobody could stand him. That's the reason he wrote that nonsense. My grandfather used to keep his book on the shelf in the Parlor, and would giggle like a little kid anytime my cousins and myself would ask him about it. Being a gulable 13 yr old, I read the book and would ask him questions regarding some of the characters he supposedly did business with. He would do any deal brought to him because the real money makers wouldn't go near him with a 10 ft pole. One of the biggest bullshitters to ever get published. If there had been the Fact checking system like they have today (Internet Especially) the author probably would have run far far away. Take care,

Luca
unfortunately authors don't allways care. for example: Ralph Natale in his book said he was SECRETLY made by Bruno and Gambino in a ceremony that they said to keep secret.
very interesting about Teresea. his book was one of my first mafia reads (after Wise Guy)
and if u think about it... when he flipped, i think he was maybe the 2nd or 3rd guy ever to flip. so when he wrote his book he was probably under the idea that no one would be countering his stories.

so he knew all.the top guys, but just didnt do any business w them?
Well as you know, being an acquaintance to someone is alot different than being business partners or in a variety of business deals. For example, I know and could make small talk, maybe buy his party a round, with a good amount of serious guys on the atreet present day in my area, but that doesn't mean we are also partners in some book, Shy, Drugs, etc. Teresa was the kinda guy who knew alot of the happenings and Scores on the street, but when he was talking a poor bastards ear off down Cafe Pompeii, basically bragging, he forgot to tell the person he got the information Second maybe Third hand and the score happened a month ago. He would get a call from Larry Z or Paul Intiso in town to help So and So in whichever location Florida, California, Nevada. Nobody trusted him. He was really a hanger-on wannabe that made his life of crime up in his own head. Hence the book. I mean think about it, a gangster of Meyer Lansky's stature, not making a call to Ray Sr to help him out if needed with a trusted underling. Instead he is that impressed with Fat Vinny Teresa, he hires him on the spot to handle millions in Caaino junkets. Take care,

Luca

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Fri May 25, 2018 2:30 am

Luca Brasi wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 8:06 pm Teresa was a total nuisance when he was on the street. He was the guy who sat at the end of the bar with his Nose up in the air, Acting as if he was too big to be bothered. He was a brokster who talked to anyone who would listen. He did know a lot of powerful people between the Boston Area and RI. Nobody could stand him. That's the reason he wrote that nonsense. My grandfather used to keep his book on the shelf in the Parlor, and would giggle like a little kid anytime my cousins and myself would ask him about it. Being a gulable 13 yr old, I read the book and would ask him questions regarding some of the characters he supposedly did business with. He would do any deal brought to him because the real money makers wouldn't go near him with a 10 ft pole. One of the biggest bullshitters to ever get published. If there had been the Fact checking system like they have today (Internet Especially) the author probably would have run far far away. Take care,

Luca
unfortunately authors don't allways care. for example: Ralph Natale in his book said he was SECRETLY made by Bruno and Gambino in a ceremony that they said to keep secret.
very interesting about Teresea. his book was one of my first mafia reads (after Wise Guy)
and if u think about it... when he flipped, i think he was maybe the 2nd or 3rd guy ever to flip. so when he wrote his book he was probably under the idea that no one would be countering his stories.

so he knew all.the top guys, but just didnt do any business w them?

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by Luca Brasi » Thu May 24, 2018 8:06 pm

Teresa was a total nuisance when he was on the street. He was the guy who sat at the end of the bar with his Nose up in the air, Acting as if he was too big to be bothered. He was a brokster who talked to anyone who would listen. He did know a lot of powerful people between the Boston Area and RI. Nobody could stand him. That's the reason he wrote that nonsense. My grandfather used to keep his book on the shelf in the Parlor, and would giggle like a little kid anytime my cousins and myself would ask him about it. Being a gulable 13 yr old, I read the book and would ask him questions regarding some of the characters he supposedly did business with. He would do any deal brought to him because the real money makers wouldn't go near him with a 10 ft pole. One of the biggest bullshitters to ever get published. If there had been the Fact checking system like they have today (Internet Especially) the author probably would have run far far away. Take care,

Luca

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Wed May 23, 2018 9:26 am

Zannino was underboss to the underboss (anguilo) who he use to extort. So he probably lost a lot of money as well as ego hurt that this underling is now his boss

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by Chaps » Wed May 23, 2018 6:43 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:03 am
dixiemafia wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:55 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:48 amAlso he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino
I think you are thinking about Bianco. He was involved with the Colombo's on and off during the Gallo Wars.

If I'm not mistaken, that is correct on Angiulo. According to the original Underboss book (about Angiulo), it mentioned too that Larry was shaking him down and he paid the old man to get him off his back and gave him control of all of Boston's numbers. Think it was $100k or $150k and a percentage of the book. It had to have felt weird because Zannino was a Patriarca favorite yet he went from shaking Angiulo down to basically working for him.

What's the story on Teresa flipping because of Zannino? I don't know about this. I'll have to get this book too
apparently when Teresea was in jail and when he first got there he asked his wife if she was bein taken care of. not only was she not but larry basically said to fuck off.

Larry seems to be a bully. but ud think these guys would at least care for there fam at least in the beginning so they dont flip.
By all accounts Zannino was a bully and could get pretty violent. This was particularly true after he drank way too much, which apparently most of the time. All accounts that I’ve read, from Underboss to Howie Carr to various FBI docs, say that Zannino was a raging alcoholic and regularly abused those around him because of it.

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by TJ » Wed May 23, 2018 6:42 am

what didnt he lie about, better question..all the shit about lansky and whoever, all non substantiated nonsense..in his case, he through everything at cardillo, made up stories, all bullshit nonsense...said he was number 3 man, but not made? ahah, said he was at major mob meetings, again all non substantiated nonsense

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Tue May 22, 2018 8:46 pm

what did he lie about??
he wasn't in WPP bc they didn't have any back then.
i dont think he even had time reduction??? just like valachi hadnt

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by TJ » Tue May 22, 2018 8:35 am

thats if teresa was telling the truth, lied about everything else why not that as well?

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Tue May 22, 2018 6:03 am

dixiemafia wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:55 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:48 amAlso he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino
I think you are thinking about Bianco. He was involved with the Colombo's on and off during the Gallo Wars.

If I'm not mistaken, that is correct on Angiulo. According to the original Underboss book (about Angiulo), it mentioned too that Larry was shaking him down and he paid the old man to get him off his back and gave him control of all of Boston's numbers. Think it was $100k or $150k and a percentage of the book. It had to have felt weird because Zannino was a Patriarca favorite yet he went from shaking Angiulo down to basically working for him.

What's the story on Teresa flipping because of Zannino? I don't know about this. I'll have to get this book too
apparently when Teresea was in jail and when he first got there he asked his wife if she was bein taken care of. not only was she not but larry basically said to fuck off.

Larry seems to be a bully. but ud think these guys would at least care for there fam at least in the beginning so they dont flip.

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by dixiemafia » Tue May 22, 2018 5:55 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:48 amAlso he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino
I think you are thinking about Bianco. He was involved with the Colombo's on and off during the Gallo Wars.

If I'm not mistaken, that is correct on Angiulo. According to the original Underboss book (about Angiulo), it mentioned too that Larry was shaking him down and he paid the old man to get him off his back and gave him control of all of Boston's numbers. Think it was $100k or $150k and a percentage of the book. It had to have felt weird because Zannino was a Patriarca favorite yet he went from shaking Angiulo down to basically working for him.

What's the story on Teresa flipping because of Zannino? I don't know about this. I'll have to get this book too

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Mon May 21, 2018 12:19 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 12:54 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 11:13 am
so he was found to be lieing? interesting. did he testify?
Yes he testified against a number of people but refused to testify against Patriarca. I don´t recall the exact reason why he refused but I think it had to do with the two of them being very close.

He hated the Angiulo brothers, particulary Jerry. Said he bought his way in when he took over the numbers operations in Boston. He also claimed that he was the one giving orders to Angiulo, which Angiulo didn´t take well. In reality though, I think it was the other way around.

Regarding Galante, he said that Galante offered him a spot in the Bonanno Family (offering to make him when the books opens) and that if things would have turned differently (him not becoming a CW), he would have joined him.

He claimed Carlo Mastrototaro was a cheap bastard who replaced Tameleo as underboss not knowing that Mastrotatotaro actually was a Genovese member.

His book was the first one I read on the Mafia and it sparked my interest, not knowing that maybe half of what´s in there is probably lies.
If he did not know that Carol Mast was the overseer/boss in Worcester, not the UB, then he was not very astute.

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Mon May 21, 2018 11:08 am

https://goo.gl/images/2gKMzU

look at that ugly fuck!! u mean seriously.... how do u take him seriouse??

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Vincent_Teresa

now that's mafia wiki..... but they make both statements.... that he was #3 man to Patriarca... but also says it's not clear if he was officially inducted. also says he was Boston faction... I dont think that's right either

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by Angelo Santino » Mon May 21, 2018 10:04 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 9:48 am Man I wish I had the book.

Lol, I recal complete opposite of u CC. I specifically remember him turning down membership but it's been years. I do recall not testify against patriarca also.

The book I thought was great. Good breakdown of winter hill wars. It was also before Bulger came out so it's interesting to see the legend of Whitey wasn't there yet.

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino
You make me wish I had the book too, I was looking for pdf version earlier but no cigar. I'm curious now if I'm right or not.

Antiliar would know.

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by JeremyTheJew » Mon May 21, 2018 9:48 am

Man I wish I had the book.

Lol, I recal complete opposite of u CC. I specifically remember him turning down membership but it's been years. I do recall not testify against patriarca also.

The book I thought was great. Good breakdown of winter hill wars. It was also before Bulger came out so it's interesting to see the legend of Whitey wasn't there yet.

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino

Re: Vinnie Teresea

by dixiemafia » Mon May 21, 2018 6:49 am

HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 12:54 amHe hated the Angiulo brothers, particulary Jerry. Said he bought his way in when he took over the numbers operations in Boston. He also claimed that he was the one giving orders to Angiulo, which Angiulo didn´t take well. In reality though, I think it was the other way around.
A lot hated at least Gerry. I heard Donato or Nicolo was actually fairly well liked and was a killer. Gerry bought his way in but he made more money than any other Boston gangster without question. He also controlled Larry Zannino which says a lot, so I doubt Teresa controlled Angiulo. Just my opinion.

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