Vinnie Teresea

[JeremyTheJew]

i believe he was the second important flip after Valachi?

he was the first to testify I think? but wouldn't testify against Patriarca or Henry Tameleo??

do we believe he passed on being made?

iv become pretty interested w Boston lately for some reason.

[Angelo Santino]

I believe most of his claims have been proven false, but others probably know more.

If I recall, his book has him talking his way into the number 3 position, I believe he even said "maybe in the old days they did (the ceremony), but it's not done anymore." Unless my mind is spacing.

[JeremyTheJew]

I believe most of his claims have been proven false, but others probably know more.

If I recall, his book has him talking his way into the number 3 position, I believe he even said "maybe in the old days they did (the ceremony), but it's not done anymore." Unless my mind is spacing.

he claimed that he did not want to be made bc it would put restrictions on himself.

so he was found to be lieing? interesting. did he testify?

[Angelo Santino]

I believe most of his claims have been proven false, but others probably know more.

If I recall, his book has him talking his way into the number 3 position, I believe he even said "maybe in the old days they did (the ceremony), but it's not done anymore." Unless my mind is spacing.

he claimed that he did not want to be made bc it would put restrictions on himself.

so he was found to be lieing? interesting. did he testify?

See, either my mind is having a senior moment or I recall him in his book "My Life In The Mafia" talking his way into the number 3 position, adamantly claiming that a ceremony isn't needed, being close to Carmine Galante in prison as well as him handling Haitian government contracts for the Patriarcas. Somebody has to know more.

[JeremyTheJew]

i do remember the Galante part.

not the no. 3 spot tho.... anyone else on that??
i also remembered him sayong he didnt want tO be made

[HairyKnuckles]

so he was found to be lieing? interesting. did he testify?

Yes he testified against a number of people but refused to testify against Patriarca. I don´t recall the exact reason why he refused but I think it had to do with the two of them being very close.

He hated the Angiulo brothers, particulary Jerry. Said he bought his way in when he took over the numbers operations in Boston. He also claimed that he was the one giving orders to Angiulo, which Angiulo didn´t take well. In reality though, I think it was the other way around.

Regarding Galante, he said that Galante offered him a spot in the Bonanno Family (offering to make him when the books opens) and that if things would have turned differently (him not becoming a CW), he would have joined him.

He claimed Carlo Mastrototaro was a cheap bastard who replaced Tameleo as underboss not knowing that Mastrotatotaro actually was a Genovese member.

His book was the first one I read on the Mafia and it sparked my interest, not knowing that maybe half of what´s in there is probably lies.

[Angelo Santino]

I ordered it back in '02 and didn't even finish reading it. I recall the Galante part, him saying that "Boston fucked him over and that Galante would make a place for him in his family."

Again, I seem to recall him claiming to have become a member (you're in) and immediately the ranking member #3 man in New England. I don't recall him claiming he turned down membership, especially given the book's title. And I fervently am clinging to the "the mob doesn't initiate people anymore, maybe they did that in the old days" statement because he was quoted in other sources having said that. If I'm mistaken I'll own up to it and take an L.

[dixiemafia]

He hated the Angiulo brothers, particulary Jerry. Said he bought his way in when he took over the numbers operations in Boston. He also claimed that he was the one giving orders to Angiulo, which Angiulo didn´t take well. In reality though, I think it was the other way around.

A lot hated at least Gerry. I heard Donato or Nicolo was actually fairly well liked and was a killer. Gerry bought his way in but he made more money than any other Boston gangster without question. He also controlled Larry Zannino which says a lot, so I doubt Teresa controlled Angiulo. Just my opinion.

[JeremyTheJew]

Man I wish I had the book.

Lol, I recal complete opposite of u CC. I specifically remember him turning down membership but it's been years. I do recall not testify against patriarca also.

The book I thought was great. Good breakdown of winter hill wars. It was also before Bulger came out so it's interesting to see the legend of Whitey wasn't there yet.

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino

[Angelo Santino]

Man I wish I had the book.

Lol, I recal complete opposite of u CC. I specifically remember him turning down membership but it's been years. I do recall not testify against patriarca also.

The book I thought was great. Good breakdown of winter hill wars. It was also before Bulger came out so it's interesting to see the legend of Whitey wasn't there yet.

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino

You make me wish I had the book too, I was looking for pdf version earlier but no cigar. I'm curious now if I'm right or not.

Antiliar would know.

[JeremyTheJew]

https://goo.gl/images/2gKMzU

look at that ugly fuck!! u mean seriously.... how do u take him seriouse??

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Vincent_Teresa

now that's mafia wiki..... but they make both statements.... that he was #3 man to Patriarca... but also says it's not clear if he was officially inducted. also says he was Boston faction... I dont think that's right either

[SILENT PARTNERZ]

so he was found to be lieing? interesting. did he testify?

Yes he testified against a number of people but refused to testify against Patriarca. I don´t recall the exact reason why he refused but I think it had to do with the two of them being very close.

He hated the Angiulo brothers, particulary Jerry. Said he bought his way in when he took over the numbers operations in Boston. He also claimed that he was the one giving orders to Angiulo, which Angiulo didn´t take well. In reality though, I think it was the other way around.

Regarding Galante, he said that Galante offered him a spot in the Bonanno Family (offering to make him when the books opens) and that if things would have turned differently (him not becoming a CW), he would have joined him.

He claimed Carlo Mastrototaro was a cheap bastard who replaced Tameleo as underboss not knowing that Mastrotatotaro actually was a Genovese member.

His book was the first one I read on the Mafia and it sparked my interest, not knowing that maybe half of what´s in there is probably lies.

If he did not know that Carol Mast was the overseer/boss in Worcester, not the UB, then he was not very astute.

[dixiemafia]

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino

I think you are thinking about Bianco. He was involved with the Colombo's on and off during the Gallo Wars.

If I'm not mistaken, that is correct on Angiulo. According to the original Underboss book (about Angiulo), it mentioned too that Larry was shaking him down and he paid the old man to get him off his back and gave him control of all of Boston's numbers. Think it was $100k or $150k and a percentage of the book. It had to have felt weird because Zannino was a Patriarca favorite yet he went from shaking Angiulo down to basically working for him.

What's the story on Teresa flipping because of Zannino? I don't know about this. I'll have to get this book too

[JeremyTheJew]

Also he wrote about gallo war I thought was good too. I thought he said Tameleo became "the referee* BC of gallo war... But I could be mistaken for Bianco.

As for Anguilo he said he was being shaken down by Larry zannino so he went to patriarca and gave him half his sports book which I think was huge.

Teresa also flipped BC of Larry zannino

I think you are thinking about Bianco. He was involved with the Colombo's on and off during the Gallo Wars.

If I'm not mistaken, that is correct on Angiulo. According to the original Underboss book (about Angiulo), it mentioned too that Larry was shaking him down and he paid the old man to get him off his back and gave him control of all of Boston's numbers. Think it was $100k or $150k and a percentage of the book. It had to have felt weird because Zannino was a Patriarca favorite yet he went from shaking Angiulo down to basically working for him.

What's the story on Teresa flipping because of Zannino? I don't know about this. I'll have to get this book too

apparently when Teresea was in jail and when he first got there he asked his wife if she was bein taken care of. not only was she not but larry basically said to fuck off.

Larry seems to be a bully. but ud think these guys would at least care for there fam at least in the beginning so they dont flip.

[TJ]

thats if teresa was telling the truth, lied about everything else why not that as well?