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Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by beans » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:19 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm That was a onnie Brasco reference. :mrgreen:


Pogo
Hysterical

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm

That was a onnie Brasco reference. :mrgreen:


Pogo

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by FriendofFamily » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:21 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm
beans wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:07 pmCaddy > Lincoln

A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac. It's a better automobile.


Pogo
Well back then I solved the Problem by having BOTH. A 1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz Custom Classic and a 1979 Lincoln Mark V along with a 1977 Lincoln Mark V and a 1973 Thunderbird and a 1969 Eldorado. The Guys also asked me which one I liked better. I said in the Winter I like driving the Eldorado because of Front Wheel Drive and in the Spring I like Driving the Lincoln. As far as Chick Magnets they worked equally as well. The 1979 Lincoln was wired for Remote Start by Tony Arnone and another "Guy". The 1978 Eldorado had a set of Special Set of Kill Switches to enable/disable the car.

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by beans » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:10 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm
beans wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:07 pmCaddy > Lincoln

A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac. It's a better automobile.


Pogo
forget about it

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm

beans wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:07 pmCaddy > Lincoln

A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac. It's a better automobile.


Pogo

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by beans » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:07 pm

Caddy > Lincoln

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by Stroccos » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:41 am

FriendofFamily wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:51 am Yeah don't forget about Leo "Lips" Moceri from Detroit that was Jack White's cousin. The very short lived but much too long Underboss for Jack White to run Akron.

He may have been "FROM" Detroit, but at least he went "TO" the Trunk of his car. At least CARS are from Detroit so it is fitting tribute. Good Riddance. A Very hated person in Akron, Ohio.
here is the is A picture of his Lincoln , that he took his last ride in
Leo Lips also lived in Barberton in the 40's for a few years when he was on the lame for those murders in Toledo. He worked in A gambling operation. Then I believe he went to California until caught,
when jack white was on the lame I think it was in the 30's he was stashed in south Euclid ( A suburb not to far from Clevelands Little Italy,) and lived with one of the family members of the d'agostino's for awhile who were very close to the Milanos and highly respected on the hill.
When Yonnie licavoli was arrested for the jack kennedy murder he was in Akron Ohio, He was trying to set up a deal to back a local racketeer with his gangs muscle , so they could get back in the rackets. that was in the 30's ,

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by baldo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:17 am

FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:13 am I think you meant "FoF". Nothing bad, but I'm not the Cleveland guy. Stroccos is The Cleveland Guy.
I feel like Paulie in Goodfellas during the wedding "even I get confused myself" :lol:

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by beans » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:45 am

Great discussion. Thanks guys

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by Stroccos » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 am

baldo wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:53 am Great infor, FOH. Any details as to why he was hated?
the long and short of it was hes was A fucking asshole.

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by FriendofHenry » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:13 am

I think you meant "FoF". Nothing bad, but I'm not the Cleveland guy. Stroccos is The Cleveland Guy.

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by Stroccos » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:12 am

Antiliar wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:28 pm I don't think by "inherited" the CI meant "replaced." Inherited could simply mean that they were sponsors in the Cleveland Family, or something similar.
Al polizzi was convicted of bootleg whiseky sales in 1944 , I believe he got like a year in prison as soon as he was released he moved his family to coral gables FL around 1945. so someone had to be acting boss , We obv know John scalish was the long time boss of the Cleveland mob and oversaw Angelo lonardos making ceremony in the late 40's so he was at least the official boss by 47,48 or 49(late forties )
according to angelo lonardo he said when he got made John Scalish was the boss , Tony MIlano Underboss and John Demarco was the Consigliere

from what I gather from the statement by The informent , he believes Tom scalish was acting boss until he died 47 then John Scalish took over as acting boss and then evetually became the offical boss.

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by baldo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:53 am

Great infor, FOH. Any details as to why he was hated?

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by FriendofFamily » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:51 am

Yeah don't forget about Leo "Lips" Moceri from Detroit that was Jack White's cousin. The very short lived but much too long Underboss for Jack White to run Akron.

He may have been "FROM" Detroit, but at least he went "TO" the Trunk of his car. At least CARS are from Detroit so it is fitting tribute. Good Riddance. A Very hated person in Akron, Ohio.

Re: UN-REDACTED Cleveland Structure File 1963

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:02 am

Stroccos wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:29 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:28 pm Jack White reporting to his cousin Pete Licavoli is interesting.
We know Pete Livcavoli was influential. He seemed to have juice
originally in St. Louis, then Detroit, Ohio, and Arizona. I wonder how much if
any influence Pete had within the Cleveland family, aside from
the control over Jack White.
Well connectons ran deep between the two families , I doubt Pete controlled the Cleveland family outside of some joint ventures and asking for some favors , a few examples of the connections Al Polizi is the one who in A sense arranged jack whites parole , Pete licavoli was the best man at Al's wedding. Moe dalitz was from Detroit and moved to Cleveland ,

also remember when licavoli was getting all the headlines in Tuscon , cleveland irish gangster gameboy miller also set up operations in Tuscon arizona who backed by the cleveland guys.
It makes sense the were close in some ways. 170 miles between the two cities, with Toledo in
the middle of both. Thanks stroccos.

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