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Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:45 am

as i said earlier i also think the "zips" running them adds to the romantisim

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by TommyGambino » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:26 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:16 am
TommyGambino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:29 am The Gambino's being big into drugs and prostitution recently probably makes it close then it's been in a while

You'd assume the gap is the closest since Castellano.
Agree pal.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:16 am

TommyGambino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:29 am The Gambino's being big into drugs and prostitution recently probably makes it close then it's been in a while

You'd assume the gap is the closest since Castellano.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by TommyGambino » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:29 am

The Gambino's being big into drugs and prostitution recently probably makes it close then it's been in a while

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 am

Don't feed the troll.


Pogo

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Wiseguy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:34 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:20 pm
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:32 pm On the site it says many now think the Gambinos are the strongest family. Not sure who those people are.
You personally know otherwise?
No but you know as well as I do that it's pretty much the consensus across the board (feds, mob experts, mafiosi themselves) the Genovese family is the strongest family in New York and the country. So not sure why you're asking me that question to begin with.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:20 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:32 pm On the site it says many now think the Gambinos are the strongest family. Not sure who those people are.
You personally know otherwise?

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Rocco » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:50 pm

Don't know about this article. Mostly speculation which is no different then anyone of us on here typing up that thing.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by B. » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:32 pm

I don't believe Salvatore Persico was a brother of Carmine, probably a cousin. Scarpa said he was a brother of them in the 1980s, but other records show he wasn't. He is ID'd as simply "a relative" of Alphonse in a 1970s report. Salvatore was a former cop who later became involved in unions on the Persicos' behalf.

Also Petrizzo is Michael Persico's former in-law. He later married a daughter of Gambino soldier Dave Rava but she passed away.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Sittite » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:16 pm

Jesus Christ - that's a list and a half.....

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:16 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:53 pm A few years back, someone on the old Real Deal site made a list of the Persico 'related' Colombo members.
IIRC the list was about 50 members. It has basically been the Persico Family for many years now.

Here you go.


Persico Family

Carmine “The Snake/Junior” Persico/Made

-Alphonse “Little Allie Boy” Persico/Made (Son of Carmine)

--Alphonse Persico Jr/Associate (Son of Alphonse/Grandson of Carmine)

-Michael Persico/Associate (Son of Carmine)

-Lawrence Persco/Associate (Son of Carmine)

Alphonse “Allie Boy” Persico/Made (Brother of Carmine) (Dead)

Theodore “Teddy” Persico Sr/Made (Brother of Carmine) (Dead)

-Theodore “Teddy” Persico Jr/Made (Son of Teddy Sr.)

-Daniel “Danny/The General” Persico/Associate (Son of Teddy Sr.) (Dead)

-Carmine L. “Junior” Persico/Associate (Son of Teddy Sr.)

-Sean Persico/Associate (Son Teddy Sr.)

Salvatore Persico/Associate (Brother of Carmine) (Dead)

-Frank Persico Sr/Associate (Son of Salvatore) (Dead)

--Frank “Frankie Sweats” Persico Jr/Associate (Son of Frank Sr.)


Other Relatives:

Andrew “Andy Mush” Russo/Made (Cousin of Carmine Perisco)

-Joseph “JoJo” Russo/Made (Son of Andy) (Dead)

-William “Billy” Russo/Made (Son of Andy)

Anthony Russo Sr/Made (Cousin of Andy) (Dead)

-Anthony "Chucky" Russo Jr/Made (Son of Anthony Sr)

Gennaro "Gerry Lang" Langella/Made (Cousin of the Persicos) (Dead)

-Vincent Langella/Associate (Son of Gennaro)

Anthony Stropoli/Made (Nephew of Gennaro)

Gennaro Cirillo/Made (Cousin of the Persicos) (Dead)

Alphonse Cirillo/Made (Cousin of the Persicos)

Andrew D’Apice/Made (Cousin of the Persicos)

-Andre D’Apice/Made (Son of Andrew)

Victor “Little Vic” Orena/Made (Cousin of the Persicos)

-Victor Orena Jr/Made (Son of Victor Sr.)

-John Orena/Made (Son of Victor Sr.)

Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/Made (In law of Carmine Persico)

Thomas Petrizzo/Made (Father in law of Michael Persico)

Angelo “Little Angelo” Spata/Associate/Soldier? (Son in law of Carmine Persico)

Edward “Tall Guy” Garofalo Jr/Associate (Cousin of the Persicos)

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by newera_212 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:22 pm

the chin 123 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:59 pm If mannino is the consigliere then what about jojo ?
if jojo wasnt named consig again (isnt he out of jail? free?) i wonder if he got his crew back. he has to be up to something. i wonder who his crew went to in the first place? got split up between trucchio and mastrangelo? id like to know more about the succession of all those queens gambino crews

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:53 pm

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:20 am This article's idea of the Persico regime is pretty strange. They seemed to look at a mob chart and glance at who has the Persico surname, and assume that was it.
They are forgetting (of the top of my head):
Andy Russo, who is a first cousin to Carmine, and is the family's most recently identified street boss. His son Billy is also a capo.
Tom Farese who runs the family's Florida faction. He is married to Carmine's niece.
Donnie Montemarano was recalled as acting underboss in 2011. Him and Carmine were best friends when they were younger and when Carmine got a life sentence and moved to Lompoc, Donnie moved down to California to stay close to him.
John Franzese and his nephew Mike. Their family is very close to the Persicos and John goes back 50+ years with Carmine.
Tom Petrizzo is a Persico inlaw and is apparently back in the Persico's good graces after the civil war.
Speaking of which, the Orena kids seem to be on good terms with the Persicos nowadays? At least that's what I can gather from Facebook, there are all corresponding and interacting with each other.
A few years back, someone on the old Real Deal site made a list of the Persico 'related' Colombo members.
IIRC the list was about 50 members. It has basically been the Persico Family for many years now.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by Frank » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:59 am

TommyGambino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:50 am
Frank wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:39 am I always questioned the validity of Vernace being consigliere, wasn't he off the streets since 2010 or 2011.
Corrozzo went away in 08, that's probably when Vernace got upped to consigliere, then he was arrested in 2011, he wasn't sentenced to life until 2014 so that's probably when they named a new consigliere.
Thanks that makes more sense.I always thought that when there was a ruling panel there was usually no underboss or Consigliere and sometimes no boss. That is where I got confused with Vernace being part of the ruling panel from 2008 to 2011. I thought he became Consigliere when Cefalu was named acting boss. But yes it makes more sense that he was named Consigliere in 2008. Maybe Gambino was the acting boss then, with Marino as acting underboss.

Re: New York Mafia 2018: Who’s up, Who’s down, Who’s the strongest

by JeremyTheJew » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:32 pm On the site it says many now think the Gambinos are the strongest family. Not sure who those people are.
after you do the vote you can see the results. and it came really close. 50% said Genovese. 48% said Gambino. and 2 said Lukes lol.

WG, i wouldnt say the Gambinos were #1 but I would think a close 2. I think it has to do w the romanticism ppl have with not only the Gambino Family but also the Zips. Part of the fun w Gambinos was the arguments over whos boss which started Back when ppl would say Nicky Corozzo was boss.

I find the current Gambino Family most interesting rn tho w the zips and then a lot of ppl coming out. Nicky gets out 2020 i believe..

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