THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:50 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:37 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:31 pm Amil was always an independent contractor. Neither made or even an associate.

I never heard the tern Capo used when referring to either Lenny or Joey. I always understood they were both the boss of the Mahoning Valley.
Go Figure.

What FriendofHenry is saying is correct. Amil D'Insio killed Naples on his own without being told to by anyone. He apparently thought it would impress Strollo and make him move up in the underworld. That's probably one of the weirdest motives for a hit I've ever heard, but that's what the evidence points to. Even Strollo himself, who openly admitted to everything (even participating in the Charles Carabbia hit), was adamant that he had nothing to do with the Naples hit.

Strollo was never above the rank of soldier "officially", but was roughly equivalent to a capo in power. I think his formal capo might have been Zebo himself, but I'm not sure if that's true or if even Zebo was a capo. What do you think, FoH?

Dwalin all that stuff on the internet about Strollo killing Naples was based on assumptions about what people thought was the "obvious" reason for the hit and was never corrected by those online sources.

Actually, Amil Dinsio got Joey out of the way because Lenny was getting ready to be released from a halfway house after doing his bit for the All American Club Casino bust and Dinsio wanted to curry favor with Bernie "The Jew" Altshuler so he would get more work on bank jobs with the "backing" of Strollo's name. Joey didn't like Amil and his crew because he felt they would attract too much attention because of the 1972 Laguna Nigel, CA bust. Amil did nothing for anybody but Amil. When the FBI went to visit Amil about the Naples hit and they point blank asked him if he did it, he told Agent Stoll to go fuck himself and that he would rot in prison before he gave any info. Amil Dinsio's daughter is a friend of mine, she is a nursing home administrator in Ohio and she has stated that she remembered the night Joey got killed as she was looking for her dad to let him know but he was gone...then she said she found him a few hours later in the basement and he had claimed to her that he was there the whole time. She said it was the first time she realized her father was lying to her. Go figure.

Ivan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:37 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:31 pm Amil was always an independent contractor. Neither made or even an associate.

I never heard the tern Capo used when referring to either Lenny or Joey. I always understood they were both the boss of the Mahoning Valley.
Go Figure.

What FriendofHenry is saying is correct. Amil D'Insio killed Naples on his own without being told to by anyone. He apparently thought it would impress Strollo and make him move up in the underworld. That's probably one of the weirdest motives for a hit I've ever heard, but that's what the evidence points to. Even Strollo himself, who openly admitted to everything (even participating in the Charles Carabbia hit), was adamant that he had nothing to do with the Naples hit.

Strollo was never above the rank of soldier "officially", but was roughly equivalent to a capo in power. I think his formal capo might have been Zebo himself, but I'm not sure if that's true or if even Zebo was a capo. What do you think, FoH?

Dwalin all that stuff on the internet about Strollo killing Naples was based on assumptions about what people thought was the "obvious" reason for the hit and was never corrected by those online sources.

Frank wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:16 am interesting, who was Scalish's choice to be his successor?

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:07 pm The price tag switching is true.


Pogo

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:09 pm That movie sucked. Worst case of an excellent cast wasted on shitty writing and direction I've ever seen.

Danny Greene is one of the most overrated mobsters ever. I will concede that he was extremely tough, but other than that there was nothing really special about him as an organized crime figure as far as I know.

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:44 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:42 am The same guy claims loose took out Allie in prison , so why would he spare some Jew rat piece of shiit?

So you don't think Loose killed Allie? (I don't, either.)

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:51 am The Cleveland family in 15 years (1976-1991) lost dozen of made men and associates but what isn't show in the Kill the Irishman movie

Ivan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:01 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:21 pm There is a great list of all the OC related murders in Cleveland-Ohio during the 70s-80s period in the 25 Years After Valachi book. From what I remember it puts Philly during the same period to shame.

Wow, this makes me even prouder to be an Ohioan.

Seriously though, looking at that list, it's about on par with Philly from the Chicken Man through Frankie Flowers, but in a much smaller family, so if you "adjust" for the size difference, then yes this is much "worse" than Philly in that era.

The Naples/Carabbia war especially was pretty effing nasty.