THE BLACK HAND FORUM

OlBlueEyesClub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 pm I think the operation Heat files explains all that. I think Ralph M is a cousin or something. Or that may be one of the Johns. These guys would definitely have more knowledge than me though.

OlBlueEyesClub wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:06 am

Rocco wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:37 am

OlBlueEyesClub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 pm I think the operation Heat files explains all that. I think Ralph M is a cousin or something. Or that may be one of the Johns. These guys would definitely have more knowledge than me though.

not cousin. Ralph Sr has 3 sons. 2are made(john & lil joe). has a son ralph jr is legit p/t bookmaker sometimes. Mike (ralph sr brother) has a son big joe that was made w/ cuz john in 07. all in the indictment read it. I believe the woman you mentioned is lil joes wife. she was charged with cettas wife because they had joint bank accts. you deposit gambling $ into the joint acct you are both charged etc feds use them as an anchor to get the men to plead to jail time to save the women etc.

I just know Ralph M was indicted as well in that case and listed as an associate . I didnt claim in any way to be certain in regards to his family relation.

Rocco wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:37 am

OlBlueEyesClub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 pm I think the operation Heat files explains all that. I think Ralph M is a cousin or something. Or that may be one of the Johns. These guys would definitely have more knowledge than me though.

not cousin. Ralph Sr has 3 sons. 2are made(john & lil joe). has a son ralph jr is legit p/t bookmaker sometimes. Mike (ralph sr brother) has a son big joe that was made w/ cuz john in 07. all in the indictment read it. I believe the woman you mentioned is lil joes wife. she was charged with cettas wife because they had joint bank accts. you deposit gambling $ into the joint acct you are both charged etc feds use them as an anchor to get the men to plead to jail time to save the women etc.

Rocco wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:18 pm Correct. Its a catch 22. You will do less time in State Prison and be paroled earlier. But the state prison is pretty shitty. Allot of Bloods and crips etc. Ideally you want to be in Fed Med-Min Security like in Fairton where you can live in a pod and have freedoms . Plus its more "white " friendly existence.... lol DiNapoli and Maddona are wishing they were in Fairton or Fort Dix play cards with other LCN guys and convicted NJ democrat politicians....lol State Prison is not a place for old white guys . Even the Medium Security State prison is mostly.. All inner city gang bangers, suburban white kids who liked the idea of being a gangbangers and now cry thru the glass to mommy and addicts etc..

OlBlueEyesClub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 pm I think the operation Heat files explains all that. I think Ralph M is a cousin or something. Or that may be one of the Johns. These guys would definitely have more knowledge than me though.

Teflon john wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:47 pm There is no fuckin way i believe that Amuso is still boss unless its just in name only. No way he is calling the shots or guys are kicking up to him or his family. These guys are greedy,in it for money and the younger guys dont respect the older guys or the old school rules,they aint gonna kick up to a boss thats been rotting in prison since the 90's and is going to be in until he's dead.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:09 pm Appreciate your response mate.

You do seem to have a decent understanding/knowledge of the situation.

The Luke's almost seem as a ploy/move to have brothers rotate/front as Skippers. Castelle, Perna etc.
So you could very well be right.

Rocco: BOP lists three Mike Perna's (Age and Release date: 75- 2015, 83-1981, 64- 1995). which one is Ralph's brother please?

I've also tried to find on BOP the release dates of the Perna's but can't do so. Can you kindly, or anyone else assist when they are respectively getting out? (Ralph, Joe, Mike etc)

Again, appreciate the response.