THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:28 am Keep in mind the Colombos, Bonannos and at times the Luccheses tend to make younger members while the Genovese and Gambinos tend to skew older.


Pogo

Pete wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:44 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:37 pm Certainly more than I would have thought. Guys in their 30's anyway.

Closest we're gonna get to wiseguy admitting he was wrong. I'll take it lol

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:02 pm Bonnano:
Frank “Big Frank” Pastore-2008- 38
Anthony "Little Anthony" Pepitone-2004- 32
Vincent Basciano Jr.-2004- 22
Michael Cassese-2004- 37
Salvatore “Sal the Ironworker” Montagna-2004- 33
Giacomo “Jack” Bonventre-2003- 35
Dominick Cicale-2003- 35
Anthony “Ace” Aiello-2003- 26
Salvatore Puccio-2001- 30
Gino Galestro-2001- 33
Anthony Navarra-2001- 28
Philip Navarra-1998- 27
Joseph Lino-1996- 37
Daniel “Dirty Danny/DeDe” Mongelli-1996- 29
Paul Cantarella-1996- 25
Nicholas “P.J” Pisciotti-1995- 28
Anthony "Tony Black" Furino- 1995- 39
Jerome “Jerry” Asaro-1990- 32
Robert “Little Robert” Lino-1990- 23
Vincent “Vinny Gorgeous” Basciano-1990- 30
Stephen “Stevie Blue” LoCurto-1988- 27
John “Porky” Zancocchio-1988- 30
Richard “Big Ritchie” Riccardi-1986- 36
Thomas “Tommy Karate” Pitera-1986- 31
Salvatore “Sal” Vitale- 1984- 37
Nicholas “Nicky Mouth” Santora-1981- 39
Armando “Mondo” Rea-1981- 29

That's 27 out of 53 back to 1981 on that same link.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:37 pm Certainly more than I would have thought. Guys in their 30's anyway.

Lupara wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:39 am
I think this has all to do with the fact that guys mature a lot slower than a century ago. Back then guys were men at age 20, today guys are still boys (myself included) at age 30.

bobbybats wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:54 pm

Hailbritain wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:28 pm Being an informant is all about what sort of person you are , be all and end all nothing more , if you believe 100% in the oath you took them you ain't gonna flip , it doesn't matter two shits where your from

The person you have to worry about flipping is the person with the most to lose. The guy with nothing to lose is the guy you can most trust. The guy with money, a beautiful wife, kids and a beautiful home are the ones most likely to sing.

Pete wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:15 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:29 pm

Pete wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:34 am Even in New York most newly made guys don't seem to be in their 20s and 30s. More like 40s or older.

I disagree on that. Just off the top of my head I can name many many guys in ny made in their 20's and 30's. 20's certainly not a ton but most of the guys I can think of from ny were made in their 30's. Out of the two ceremonies we know of for the outfit the youngest guy was marcello and he was 40. Most of the other guys were mid 40's to late 40's

Just off the top of your head? I'm not sure how exhaustive a list that would be but, however many you could name, I suspect they would still be in the minority compared to those getting made in their 40s or older.

Could you provide where your getting this information? See when I mentioned Chicago I put out the facts as to why that's the case based on the info we know about who was made at what ceremony. I also stated the majority of people in ny that I have info about, based on reading books, indictments etc, were made before their 40's. I know you have a lot of info on when people were made so I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing here

Pete wrote:

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:34 am Even in New York most newly made guys don't seem to be in their 20s and 30s. More like 40s or older.

I disagree on that. Just off the top of my head I can name many many guys in ny made in their 20's and 30's. 20's certainly not a ton but most of the guys I can think of from ny were made in their 30's. Out of the two ceremonies we know of for the outfit the youngest guy was marcello and he was 40. Most of the other guys were mid 40's to late 40's

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:29 pm

Pete wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:34 am Even in New York most newly made guys don't seem to be in their 20s and 30s. More like 40s or older.

I disagree on that. Just off the top of my head I can name many many guys in ny made in their 20's and 30's. 20's certainly not a ton but most of the guys I can think of from ny were made in their 30's. Out of the two ceremonies we know of for the outfit the youngest guy was marcello and he was 40. Most of the other guys were mid 40's to late 40's

Just off the top of your head? I'm not sure how exhaustive a list that would be but, however many you could name, I suspect they would still be in the minority compared to those getting made in their 40s or older.