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by **Teflon john** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:27 pm

I like the saying Carlos Marcello had on his wall in his office "3 people can keep a secret of 2 are dead".

by **Antiliar** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:12 pm

No problema, Solai. Al certainly did have a way with words and was clearly more intelligent than a simple thug.

by **Sol** » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:59 pm

Antiliar wrote:No, Solai. He didn't make up the saying and there's no evidence that he even quoted it, but if I find any different I will let you know. So for now the answer is a king-sized "No."

Thank you for the confirmation Antiliar. "People who respect nothing dread fear. It is upon fear, therefore, that I have built up my organization. But understand me correctly, please. Those who work with me are afraid of nothing. Those who work for me are kept faithful, not so much because of their pay as because they know what might be done with them if they broke faith." Love this quote, big Al had a way with words, lol.......Soliai

by **phatmatress777** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:09 pm

Thanks anti liar

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by **Antiliar** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:31 pm

"Roscoe" means a gun, so to "put the roscoe" on someone is to point a gun at someone else. In context it means that he was a target.

As for the original quote that Solai asked about, I couldn't find a reference with that exact phrasing earlier than 2008: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.ph ... opic=12392

by **phatmatress777** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:14 pm

What did a roscoe stand for back in those days? Regardless if he said it or not it's a damn good quote

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by **Antiliar** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:12 pm

Here's a couple similar quotes that come from The Quotable Al Capone:

"I'm the boss. I'm going to continue to run things. They've been putting the roscoe on me
for a good many years and I'm still healthy and happy. Don't let anybody kid you into thinking
I can be run out of town. I haven't run yet and I'm not going to."

"People who respect nothing dread fear. It is upon fear, therefore, that I have built up my
organization. But understand me correctly, please. Those who work with me are afraid of
nothing. Those who work for me are kept faithful, not so much because of their pay as because
they know what might be done with them if they broke faith."

by **Antiliar** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:37 pm

No, Solai. He didn't make up the saying and there's no evidence that he even quoted it, but if I find any different I will let you know. So for now the answer is a king-sized "No."

by **Sol** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:53 pm

Antiliar wrote:Nope. The earliest I found it was in the New York Herald in 1903.

Edit: Found an earlier ref in the Boston Journal in 1883

So is it still a no?......Soliai

by **Antiliar** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:03 pm

Nope. The earliest I found it was in the New York Herald in 1903.

Edit: Found an earlier ref in the Boston Journal in 1883

by **Meatball** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:02 am

Soliai wrote:Did Al Capone really say this? "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.".......Soliai

I sure hope so. It's one of the quotes I printed out and hung up in my workspace. Seems to keep people in line.

by **JCB1977** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:04 pm

Soliai wrote:Did Al Capone really say this? "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.".......Soliai

Ask Antillar, he knows the Chicago early days

by **Sol** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Did Al Capone really say this? "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.".......Soliai

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