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Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by davidf1989 » Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:31 am

Joeyboy1982 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:59 pm
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:22 am wasn't Gillis one of Salemme's main enforcers along with Devlin, the Rossettis Mark and Stephen?
Correct, which is why that took me by surprise . Mark was a rat but never heard anything about Gillis. Must be a typo, error or some shit. He's well respected.
thanks for your reply and what do you make of this quote about Gillis and the Rossettis from the book Master Thieves: the Boston gangsters who pulled off the world's greatest art heist on p. 71' 'T'he New York underworld had given Frank Salemme, whom the Rossetti gang reported to, approval for Youngworth to be allowed to take Mashberg to see the painting. Those New York mobsters were now going to take possession of the paintings. Donati had been killed just before he was to be inducted as a made member of the mafia. The crew, presumably who pulled off the Gardner heist, had been put together by Richard Devlin, another member of the Rossetti crew, while serving time in Walpole prison. Richard Gillis, a cousin to the Rossetti's, had been an original member of either the Rossetti gang or those who had pulled off the robbery.'

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by chin_gigante » Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:37 am

In his testimony he says Manocchio was in charge in Providence and Jackie Salemme was in charge in Boston after Frank Salemme went on the lam. Yes, as you'll see on the first post in this thread, he says the Salemme faction consisted of the Rossettis and the Luisis.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by davidf1989 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:57 pm

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:57 am DiPrizio was aligned with the renegade faction, but Luisi says he didn't ask specifically why Salemme wanted him dead.
thanks for your response. so was Jackie Salemme or Louis Manocchio the second in command to Frank Salemme in their faction? and were Mark and Steven Rossetti the main allies of Bobby Luisi, his father and the Salemmes?

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by chin_gigante » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:57 am

DiPrizio was aligned with the renegade faction, but Luisi says he didn't ask specifically why Salemme wanted him dead.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by davidf1989 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:42 am

Here is an old article about Anthony DiPrizio? https://www.newspapers.com/article/the- ... 106235022/ I think that according to Luisi's testimony that he was requested to kill Diprizio by Jackie Salemme. was that due to the war between the factions?

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by Joeyboy1982 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:44 pm

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:33 am This is the part where he says Gillis and O'Toole were informants



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Unfortunately I don't have access to see that pdf on the board. Is there a website link where it can be viewed?

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by davidf1989 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:30 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:27 am lol an allergic reaction only when sniffing it but not when ingesting the exact same substance? Never heard of that before. Luisi is def an odd duck.I liked the few episodes of his show when he had Eddie portalla on. Rico Ponzo has a pretty wild story. He was on the lam as long as Bulger and def didn't have as much money but he hustled his way into having a cattle ranch. Kind of cool. Between him and Whitey I don't know of any other guys who lasted on the lam as long, especially during the 90s-2010s when technology was getting much more advanced. Chin thanks again as always!

Thanks for an interesting comment so was Luisi blocked from being made into the LCN by Frank Salemme or his brother Jackie? Despite Bobby Luisi and his father being members of the Salemme faction which was briefly fighting the Carrozza faction.

was Vinnie the Pig devincent a member of the renegade faction?

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:27 am

lol an allergic reaction only when sniffing it but not when ingesting the exact same substance? Never heard of that before. Luisi is def an odd duck.I liked the few episodes of his show when he had Eddie portalla on. Rico Ponzo has a pretty wild story. He was on the lam as long as Bulger and def didn't have as much money but he hustled his way into having a cattle ranch. Kind of cool. Between him and Whitey I don't know of any other guys who lasted on the lam as long, especially during the 90s-2010s when technology was getting much more advanced. Chin thanks again as always!

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by chin_gigante » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:29 am

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am Did he really say that he was "eating" cocaine??
He talks about it more in his book. He says he had an allergic reaction when he snorted coke, so to get around it he'd chew and swallow a pea-sized amount of cocaine and then chase it with alcohol to get rid of the bitter taste.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by Pmac2 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:07 am

Luisi says I considered them to be informants.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by chin_gigante » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:33 am

This is the part where he says Gillis and O'Toole were informants


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Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by Joeyboy1982 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:02 pm

mr white wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:03 pm I think Luisi, Sr. bullied the fuck out of the Clemente kid and the Clemente father was legitimately worried for his son's life and panicked inside the 99 that day.
100%

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by Joeyboy1982 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:59 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:22 am wasn't Gillis one of Salemme's main enforcers along with Devlin, the Rossettis Mark and Stephen?
Correct, which is why that took me by surprise . Mark was a rat but never heard anything about Gillis. Must be a typo, error or some shit. He's well respected.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by mr white » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:03 pm

I think Luisi, Sr. bullied the fuck out of the Clemente kid and the Clemente father was legitimately worried for his son's life and panicked inside the 99 that day.

Re: Testimony of Robert C Luisi Jr, US v Enrico Ponzo (2013)

by Hired_Goonz » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:42 am

Great thread as per usual Chin, thanks for breaking this down. I remember in Anastasia's book he portrayed Luisi as a cuck for not avenging the murder of his father and brother but it turns out that his own friends did it! Crazy stuff. Did he really say that he was "eating" cocaine??

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