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Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by johnny_scootch » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:23 pm

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:01 pm. he was capo of walnut crew
The Walnut was Vic’s bar, D’Arco was captain of the Vario/Canarsie crew. Apples and oranges

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Little_Al1991 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:53 pm

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:01 pm
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:32 pm So the previous narrative of;

Buddy Luongo was Corrallo choice hence his murder right after he went to prison is wrong?
Interesting.

So where did Tom mix fit in the equation?
According to D’Arco, Casso told him that Santoro was making a move for the leadership. Santoro plotted against Corallo. He wanted Luongo to take over.
i believe half of what darco said. he made it seem like he was the toughest guy in the world. he was casso and amuso's errand boy. he was capo of walnut crew b/c there was nobody else and easily controllable. his book interesting but a lot of puffing and self aggrandizing nonsense. im surprised his son didn't go on youtube. i doubt he is successful wherever he is.
I didn’t get that impression from D’Arco but he did seem as if he was easily irritable and not exactly pleasant and the book points this out during the time he was incarcerated. Somebody who was in with him gave a description of him and it was not positive.

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by CornerBoy » Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:01 pm

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:32 pm So the previous narrative of;

Buddy Luongo was Corrallo choice hence his murder right after he went to prison is wrong?
Interesting.

So where did Tom mix fit in the equation?
According to D’Arco, Casso told him that Santoro was making a move for the leadership. Santoro plotted against Corallo. He wanted Luongo to take over.
i believe half of what darco said. he made it seem like he was the toughest guy in the world. he was casso and amuso's errand boy. he was capo of walnut crew b/c there was nobody else and easily controllable. his book interesting but a lot of puffing and self aggrandizing nonsense. im surprised his son didn't go on youtube. i doubt he is successful wherever he is.

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Pmac2 » Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:11 pm

tony ducks orderd luongo murder. santoro was trying a move I think.theres alot of info if you search about it. the craziest part someone posted casso letter to the judge to reduce his sentence. he states at the very end I should have took the 22yr sentence he was offered before he decided to cooperate. he would probaly died home a free man probaly still on shelf but free. and tons of murders would have never been solved or the whole mafia cop shit. plot against gotti ect

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Little_Al1991 » Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:48 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:32 pm So the previous narrative of;

Buddy Luongo was Corrallo choice hence his murder right after he went to prison is wrong?
Interesting.

So where did Tom mix fit in the equation?
According to D’Arco, Casso told him that Santoro was making a move for the leadership. Santoro plotted against Corallo. He wanted Luongo to take over.

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:32 pm

So the previous narrative of;

Buddy Luongo was Corrallo choice hence his murder right after he went to prison is wrong?
Interesting.

So where did Tom mix fit in the equation?

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Little_Al1991 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:26 am

dreww wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:34 am I still dont' understand how you go from Tony Ducks to Casso and Amuso. I know the logic with Corallo getting locked up and basically saying screw it, you can have it, but still. What a drastic change in leadership (which I think also reflects broadly across all families and is a product of how the times changed, ie Italian assimilation and increase law enforcement pressure).
Corallo chose Amuso over Luongo who was murdered after Corallo was sent to prison which is contrary to public belief that Luongo’s murder was a sneak hit. Casso was not part of the first admin that Amuso had as boss. Eddie Coco and Mariano “Mac” Macaluso were in his admin. Casso was promoted to Capo during this time.

Amuso and Casso both had great reputations on the street which is evident by the fact that Corallo decided to choose Amuso as boss instead of the other notable members around that time. According to John Pennisi, Amuso is well respected

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Little_Al1991 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:21 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:06 am So at the time when DeCicco was bombed on accident instead of Gotti - Christy tic was involved too?
Furnari and Corallo were involved. Furnari was denied parole on many occasions as a result of his involvement in the DeCicco murder.
Corallo and Furnari must have discussed it which led to Furnari giving the task to Vic and Gas

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by johnny_scootch » Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:48 am

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am what ever happened to the dude that had his toes blown off who was in car w Decicco?
Frankie Hearts, the bombing hurt him pretty bad. Pretty sure he went inactive after that and died 15-20 years later.

dreww wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:34 am I still dont' understand how you go from Tony Ducks to Casso and Amuso. I know the logic with Corallo getting locked up and basically saying screw it, you can have it, but still. What a drastic change in leadership (which I think also reflects broadly across all families and is a product of how the times changed, ie Italian assimilation and increase law enforcement pressure).
He didn't say screw it you can have it. He did the right thing and gave up the power to guys he thought were well suited for the job on advice from his trusted Consigliere. You're looking at it in hindsight and judging which isn't fair, at the time they took over Vic & Gas were like the Judge & Soto of the Lucchese family. Forgive my analogy it was best I could think of on the fly but I think it helps make my point.

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by dreww » Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:34 am

I still dont' understand how you go from Tony Ducks to Casso and Amuso. I know the logic with Corallo getting locked up and basically saying screw it, you can have it, but still. What a drastic change in leadership (which I think also reflects broadly across all families and is a product of how the times changed, ie Italian assimilation and increase law enforcement pressure).

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by CornerBoy » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am

what ever happened to the dude that had his toes blown off who was in car w Decicco?

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by JeremyTheJew » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:06 am

So at the time when DeCicco was bombed on accident instead of Gotti - Christy tic was involved too?

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by Little_Al1991 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:34 pm

This is the first time that I’ve seen Amuso’s name mentioned in relation to DeMeo’s murder but Amuso’s name appears next to Lee Schleifer as one of the participants but trial testimony from Tommy Carew contrasts this as Carew didn’t mention Amuso’s name when testifying about the murder of Lee

Amuso being listed as one of the participants of DeMeo’s murder could be erroneous

Re: A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

by JoePuzzles234 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:23 pm

PaddyWhack wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:16 pm I’m assuming this is the same Joseph?

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituar ... i-10289752
Different person, the Lucchese associate Joseph Abinanti (son of Peter) was born ~1951. Not sure if is still alive but he was around various connected Las Vegas/Southern California pornography companies in the 1990s

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