A list of murders (including the shooters) committed by the 19th Hole crew when it was under Christie Tick.

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This list reminded me of what Pennisi stated on the MBA and the Buttonman podcast

One of the reasons as to why Vic Amuso is still the boss today is because people respected what he did to get to the top
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This is great, thanks for posting.

What's the story on Pate's first alleged murder here? I was under the impression he just did the DeCicco murder.
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Ivan wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:13 pm This is great, thanks for posting.

What's the story on Pate's first alleged murder here? I was under the impression he just did the DeCicco murder.
According to Casso’s book (highly unreliable but it’s all I could find about this), Albano was a crooked cop who had something to do with the French connection case. Albano and Pate were close and involved in the heroin business but Albano accused Pate of stealing profits. Pate killed him and then called Casso who took the body from him which was later found.
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I'm gonna assume this list was made with casso given the info?? so they tried to kill joseph abinati in 1979 but kept his father in there crew till he died in the 90tys. also the son Joseph was uses in the California hit on dilapi. talk about being dedicated to the life
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Pmac2 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:42 pm I'm gonna assume this list was made with casso given the info?? so they tried to kill joseph abinati in 1979 but kept his father in there crew till he died in the 90tys. also the son Joseph was uses in the California hit on dilapi. talk about being dedicated to the life
Abinanti’s death was ordered because he was kidnapping people for ransom and one of the people he kidnapped was associated to Chin Gigante so he asked them to kill Abinanti. The hit was given to Amuso and Casso. Amuso shot him but he survived and fled to California
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that's interesting but they eventually gave him a pass and used him in the 1990 murder of dilapi. in cali
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Tacetta was in the Furnari’s crew?
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moneyman wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:37 am Tacetta was in the Furnari’s crew?
I was surprised to see his name on there. Ive never came across any association between Taccetta and Furnari. This could be erroneous
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:59 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:42 pm I'm gonna assume this list was made with casso given the info?? so they tried to kill joseph abinati in 1979 but kept his father in there crew till he died in the 90tys. also the son Joseph was uses in the California hit on dilapi. talk about being dedicated to the life
Abinanti’s death was ordered because he was kidnapping people for ransom and one of the people he kidnapped was associated to Chin Gigante so he asked them to kill Abinanti. The hit was given to Amuso and Casso. Amuso shot him but he survived and fled to California
I’m assuming this is the same Joseph?

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PaddyWhack wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:16 pm I’m assuming this is the same Joseph?

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Different person, the Lucchese associate Joseph Abinanti (son of Peter) was born ~1951. Not sure if is still alive but he was around various connected Las Vegas/Southern California pornography companies in the 1990s
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This is the first time that I’ve seen Amuso’s name mentioned in relation to DeMeo’s murder but Amuso’s name appears next to Lee Schleifer as one of the participants but trial testimony from Tommy Carew contrasts this as Carew didn’t mention Amuso’s name when testifying about the murder of Lee

Amuso being listed as one of the participants of DeMeo’s murder could be erroneous
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So at the time when DeCicco was bombed on accident instead of Gotti - Christy tic was involved too?
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what ever happened to the dude that had his toes blown off who was in car w Decicco?
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I still dont' understand how you go from Tony Ducks to Casso and Amuso. I know the logic with Corallo getting locked up and basically saying screw it, you can have it, but still. What a drastic change in leadership (which I think also reflects broadly across all families and is a product of how the times changed, ie Italian assimilation and increase law enforcement pressure).
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