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Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by CornerBoy » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:44 am

ridgewood- never heard of those guys. very interesting.

im sure we'd all like to hear whatever you comfortable talking bout

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Ridgewood 79 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:41 am

Had many of these guys in my neighborhood ( Bushwick/Ridgewood two that come to mind is two guys around Phil rastelli one was the old man winters ( Irish guy) yeah I know he came off Italian but lots of respect growing up I always thought he was up there cause of the level of respect and tony the Indian (lnu) he was real close to rastelli and a real tough guy but never made! Yeah there was tons of these guys in that life

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Extortion » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:32 pm

“Seemed to he made” ….Well did you meet any of them or see them anywhere to make a judgement? …probably not. /end speculation

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Adam » Fri May 24, 2024 12:06 pm

This will probably involve some debate. And I know Scott disagrees. Sorry Scott, you're awesome! But for Detroit, I still haven't seen actual evidence Nove Tocco was made. He never gave an induction ceremony description ever. And the Detroit FBI would have broadcast that. So that one I think is questionable.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by FriendofHenry » Wed May 22, 2024 11:04 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:00 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo
They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .
Fair enough - I consider you the most knowledgeable of the old Cleveland LCN ;)

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Stroccos » Tue May 21, 2024 1:00 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo
They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by FriendofHenry » Mon May 20, 2024 7:50 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.

That is also my understanding. He was made to insure his silence. He was also reassured that his family would be taken care of.

Pogo
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Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Pogo The Clown » Sun May 19, 2024 7:15 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 6:42 pm Was Carrabia on the 1993 list?

He was not.


Pogo

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Snakes » Sun May 19, 2024 6:42 pm

Was Carrabia on the 1993 list?

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Pogo The Clown » Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm

If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by PolackTony » Sun May 19, 2024 4:27 pm

I don’t recall Lonardo ever testifying that Ronnie Carabbia was made. Lonardo claimed, of course, that Cleveland didn’t want to approve the hit on Charlie Crab out of “respect” for Ronnie and his family, but he didn’t say that Ronnie was made (if I’m wrong, and Lonardo did in fact make this claim somewhere else and I missed it, someone please correct me).

In “25 Years After Valachi”, the Feds designated Ronnie as an associate as of his 1982 RICO conviction:

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Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Stroccos » Sun May 19, 2024 2:01 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 6:36 pm
Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:30 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:17 pm Also in Youngstown the Carabbia and Naples brothers. Only, respectively, Ronnie and Joey were ever made, but people often refer to them all as made.
Why do you believe Ronnie was made ? If so when ? And by whom ?don’t believe he was made ,
Was declared "made" by Lonardo without a ceremony, or something weird like that. Ask JCB, it was something strange like that.
I aint buying that ,but to each there own

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Ivan » Sat May 18, 2024 6:36 pm

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 11:30 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:17 pm Also in Youngstown the Carabbia and Naples brothers. Only, respectively, Ronnie and Joey were ever made, but people often refer to them all as made.
Why do you believe Ronnie was made ? If so when ? And by whom ?don’t believe he was made ,
Was declared "made" by Lonardo without a ceremony, or something weird like that. Ask JCB, it was something strange like that.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by CornerBoy » Sat May 18, 2024 2:20 pm

has anyone heard rumors abouut joe butters?

not even rats will talk about it. scars, gravano.

maybe a rape or something?

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Stroccos » Sat May 18, 2024 11:30 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:17 pm Also in Youngstown the Carabbia and Naples brothers. Only, respectively, Ronnie and Joey were ever made, but people often refer to them all as made.
Why do you believe Ronnie was made ? If so when ? And by whom ?don’t believe he was made ,

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