I don’t recall Lonardo ever testifying that Ronnie Carabbia was made. Lonardo claimed, of course, that Cleveland didn’t want to approve the hit on Charlie Crab out of “respect” for Ronnie and his family, but he didn’t say that Ronnie was made (if I’m wrong, and Lonardo did in fact make this claim somewhere else and I missed it, someone please correct me).
In “25 Years After Valachi”, the Feds designated Ronnie as an associate as of his 1982 RICO conviction:
"Hey, hey, hey — this is America, baby! Survival of the fittest.”
If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.
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Snakes wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 6:42 pm
Was Carrabia on the 1993 list?
He was not.
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It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm
If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.
That is also my understanding. He was made to insure his silence. He was also reassured that his family would be taken care of.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm
If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.
Pogo
They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .
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Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm
If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.
Pogo
They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .
Fair enough - I consider you the most knowledgeable of the old Cleveland LCN
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This will probably involve some debate. And I know Scott disagrees. Sorry Scott, you're awesome! But for Detroit, I still haven't seen actual evidence Nove Tocco was made. He never gave an induction ceremony description ever. And the Detroit FBI would have broadcast that. So that one I think is questionable.
Had many of these guys in my neighborhood ( Bushwick/Ridgewood two that come to mind is two guys around Phil rastelli one was the old man winters ( Irish guy) yeah I know he came off Italian but lots of respect growing up I always thought he was up there cause of the level of respect and tony the Indian (lnu) he was real close to rastelli and a real tough guy but never made! Yeah there was tons of these guys in that life