THE BLACK HAND FORUM

nakedturtle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:01 am

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:32 pm While it might not be what it was at its peak 10-15 years ago, the Sinaloa Cartel is still a major force. They are responsible for maybe my favorite narco/organized crime story ever. Like 6-7 years ago they were shipping 20,000 kilos to Canada. The captain of the ship thought that US customs and the Coast Guard was closing in on them. So he hit a button that opened a trap door in the ship and dropped all 20,000 bricks to the bottom of the ocean. But the captain was just high off coke and paranoid for no reason…there was no law enforcement in the area. He flushed a $200M+ shipment to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

Well El Mayo contracted out a team of divers that spent a full 12 months looking for the lost work. They eventually retrieved every single kilo, put them on another ship, and sent them to Vancouver where they were eventually sold. They had been packaged so professionally that not a single one was ruined and got wet. Pretty freaking incredible.

where did you read that?

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:32 pm While it might not be what it was at its peak 10-15 years ago, the Sinaloa Cartel is still a major force. They are responsible for maybe my favorite narco/organized crime story ever. Like 6-7 years ago they were shipping 20,000 kilos to Canada. The captain of the ship thought that US customs and the Coast Guard was closing in on them. So he hit a button that opened a trap door in the ship and dropped all 20,000 bricks to the bottom of the ocean. But the captain was just high off coke and paranoid for no reason…there was no law enforcement in the area. He flushed a $200M+ shipment to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

Well El Mayo contracted out a team of divers that spent a full 12 months looking for the lost work. They eventually retrieved every single kilo, put them on another ship, and sent them to Vancouver where they were eventually sold. They had been packaged so professionally that not a single one was ruined and got wet. Pretty freaking incredible.

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:34 am From another article here...


Equally fascinating were the intended recipients of the Sinaloa Cartel’s cocaine run through Catania: yes, the ‘Ndrangheta for its distribution in Western Europe, but also a Chinese criminal group. As I explored in the second column in this series, the Sinaloa Cartel had long cooperated with the triads in trying to build up a growing Chinese and Asian cocaine market.

In about 2015, the Sinaloa Cartel made a radical change in its Asia-Pacific foreign policy. For the set of reasons I had previously detailed, it decided not just to use the Asia-Pacific area for procuring meth and synthetic opioid precursors and developing cocaine markets, but also to begin supplying meth to the Asia-Pacific region, thus threatening the triads’ crystal meth empire there.


So what's the deal exactly? Where did you get confirmation it was the Catania gangs?

Strax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:00 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:41 pm For one... supply has nothing to do with distribution. They arnt going to Europe to distribute, just like Gugliotti didn't go to NY to distribute.

Second... you must have not seen this yet...

https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/en-sinaloa-cartel-europe/

I wrote about this in "News from Italy" where this was originally posted, this one was Sinaloa but with backing of local crime families. Cocaine was to be bought by local families. Spain is very different from South Italy ,they don't have organized crime groups that have level of control like groups in South Italy, its absurd to think anyone would move half a ton of cocaine in Italy without working with local mafia, pretty much same in Russia,Albania or any other country that have powerful domestic organized crime group. But i think even in Spain they make partnership with local powerful groups,as article suggests: "Mafia involvement made sense. Sinaloa is known to forge partnerships with existing organizations, rather than trying to steamroll its way into new markets."

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:41 pm For one... supply has nothing to do with distribution. They arnt going to Europe to distribute, just like Gugliotti didn't go to NY to distribute.

Second... you must have not seen this yet...

https://irpimedia.irpi.eu/en-sinaloa-cartel-europe/

Strax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:33 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:33 pm You think it's Santapaolo? Or the Carratessi? Is that the nickname for the Capello- Bonaccorsi? Or is it one of the independents? OR.... is it the cartel itself? They tried to establish an " office" so to speak in Catania.....

There is no way its the cartel without local mafia families , you can't do that there , Spain is very different than Sicily/South Italy.

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:33 pm You think it's Santapaolo? Or the Carratessi? Is that the nickname for the Capello- Bonaccorsi? Or is it one of the independents? OR.... is it the cartel itself? They tried to establish an " office" so to speak in Catania.....

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:27 pm

scagghiuni wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:17 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:31 am https://www.varesenews.it/2019/01/la-gu ... na/790028/

On January 31,2019 was seized 2,100 kg of coke in Genoa and the destination was Barcellona.At the time was drug traffickers linked to Carte del Golfo that should distribute the coke in the whole Europe.
I don't think that italian oc have the resorces to pay and distribuite such quantities.

it's different, the drug was intended for the Spanish market and in fact among the people arrested there was a spaniard... the drug belonged to a confederation of gangs according to police, all close to the colombians, but it doesn't mean that the colombian cartels have the manpower to distribute it by themselves, they always need local gangs... the italian OC are billionaires according to the assets seized, all the major groups have enough money and contacts to buy 2 tons , especially Ndrangheta and Camorra who have been involved in that field (cocaine) for decades

When does a kilo of cocaine cost in Mexico?