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Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by johnny_scootch » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:08 am

NE1020 wrote:They were probably the worst crew in mafia IMO.
From a law enforcement point of view you could be right but in mafia terms they were earners and workhorses basically the best you could hope for minus the cocaine.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by johnny_scootch » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:04 am

E. Lou Minotti wrote: DeMeo was from Bath Beach. It was a mob neighborhood. Bath Avenue, Cropsey Lounge, Spero's club, the Esplanade, George DeCicco's club...all are/were in Bath Beach. There was even an old timer called Johnny Bath Beach.
He was not. Like Phat said earlier he grew up in Flatlands and went to high school in marine park. Nowhere have I ever even seen it mistakenly said he was from Bath Beach until now.
You are thinking about Nino Gaggi.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by NE1020 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:34 pm

Complete psychos, they killed women and civilians and couldn't care less. Theres an old thread on GBB where someone who knew the crew personally and described how they were actually pretty well-liked in the neighborhood by the residents and how they were somewhat perceived as vigilantes. They were probably the worst crew in mafia IMO.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by rayray » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:51 pm

I never realized the age difference between DeMeo and his young crew. Seems like he didn't have a hold of some of his guys, man were they killers or what? The "Hit List" really puts it in perspective, it's surreal, this crew must have been talked about a lot, why anyone would want to hang out with any of them or go near them is beyond comprehendable. No wonder why they just hung out with themselves lol :lol:

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by Wiseguy » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:34 pm

phatmatress777 wrote:
NE1020 wrote:Alright my bad, guess my info on DeMeo was wrong. But in fairness, wasn't Castellano reluctanct on giving DeMeo his button? I remember reading that Gaggi tried to telling DeMeo that there were benefits to just being an associate rather than a made guy.
that part is true ... He thought Roy was to much of a cowboy


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Yeah it took DeMeo earning a lot of money for the family, as well as Gaggi’s support, to convince Castellano to make him.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by phatmatress777 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:15 pm

NE1020 wrote:Alright my bad, guess my info on DeMeo was wrong. But in fairness, wasn't Castellano reluctanct on giving DeMeo his button? I remember reading that Gaggi tried to telling DeMeo that there were benefits to just being an associate rather than a made guy.
that part is true ... He thought Roy was to much of a cowboy


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Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by NE1020 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:02 pm

Alright my bad, guess my info on DeMeo was wrong. But in fairness, wasn't Castellano reluctanct on giving DeMeo his button? I remember reading that Gaggi tried to telling DeMeo that there were benefits to just being an associate rather than a made guy.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by Wiseguy » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:31 am

NE1020 wrote:Phatmattress

I meant Vito Borelli not Henry Borelli.

And when I said I said Demeo wasn't true LCN I was I was getting at how he didn't grow up in a mob neighborhood nor did he know many wiseguys until he met Gaggi. He also didn't seem too close with other mobsters, after he got made he occasionally went to Castellano's club but he socially he just seemed to stick with the Gemini lounge which was an ethnic mix. Im just saying that it wouldn't shock me if he became a CI.
But that didn't mean he wasn't "true LCN." And how you described the situation with him probably applied to many made guys.

One thing that I do remember reading in Murder Machine was, after he got made, Gaggi told him he couldn't rise any higher because only Sicilians could be captains or higher in the family. I'm not sure if that was the case but DeMeo said he was happy with what he got.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by phatmatress777 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:49 pm

Yes demeo actually turned down the lychees because he actually saw a more promising future with the gambinos


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Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by AlexfromSouth » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:02 pm

NE1020 wrote:Phatmattress

I meant Vito Borelli not Henry Borelli.

And when I said I said Demeo wasn't true LCN I was I was getting at how he didn't grow up in a mob neighborhood nor did he know many wiseguys until he met Gaggi. He also didn't seem too close with other mobsters, after he got made he occasionally went to Castellano's club but he socially he just seemed to stick with the Gemini lounge which was an ethnic mix. Im just saying that it wouldn't shock me if he became a CI.
No,DeMeo was actually from Flatlands in Brooklyn.nonetheless that neighbourhood was next to Canarsie,whis was allways mob connected.The Vario crew,The Bamboo loung,etc..Ring a bell?DeMeo started his criminal carear at 17 and was connected to The lucchese's up until 1966 when he came to work for Nino Gaggi.He was a tremdeous earner and had a very capable crew(killing,drug dealing,cara,etc).He got his botton at 34,that is kind of young to get made considering he was neapolitan and with no particular familly connections.A veruly smart person,never spent time in jail and acctually finished high school.My opinion is that the crazy guys in his crew messed up what he had hoing and in some way got him killed..They were some crazy idiotic guys,very young.
Demeo was feard in all of NY.When the westies killed ruby stain Demeo and Gaggi got a whole lot of money from ruby's shy book..And there was a lot of money there..
Of course non of this does overshadow the fact he was a mad dog crazy killer,so i guess he got what he desereved..Oh yeah,and to say that he was friends and worked with Casso(did him a favor by killing somebody),Sammy bull,John Gotti just to name a few..Robert DB,etc...

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by E. Lou Minotti » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:30 pm

NE1020 wrote:Phatmattress

I meant Vito Borelli not Henry Borelli.

And when I said I said Demeo wasn't true LCN I was I was getting at how he didn't grow up in a mob neighborhood nor did he know many wiseguys until he met Gaggi.
DeMeo was from Bath Beach. It was a mob neighborhood. Bath Avenue, Cropsey Lounge, Spero's club, the Esplanade, George DeCicco's club...all are/were in Bath Beach. There was even an old timer called Johnny Bath Beach.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by NE1020 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:03 pm

And thanks for the info Pogo.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by NE1020 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:02 pm

Phatmattress

I meant Vito Borelli not Henry Borelli.

And when I said I said Demeo wasn't true LCN I was I was getting at how he didn't grow up in a mob neighborhood nor did he know many wiseguys until he met Gaggi. He also didn't seem too close with other mobsters, after he got made he occasionally went to Castellano's club but he socially he just seemed to stick with the Gemini lounge which was an ethnic mix. Im just saying that it wouldn't shock me if he became a CI.

Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:29 pm

Frank Amato was whacked for beating Castellano's daughter (he was her husband). I think she suffered a miscarriage if my memory is correct. If he wanted to commit suicide, pills are a lot easier. :mrgreen:


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Re: DeMeo crew hits list

by phatmatress777 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:16 pm

NE1020 wrote:Demeo wasn't true LCN, he was an independent racketeer who happened to be Italian and eventually formed a business relationship with Gaggi who gave him his button. Even when he was made him and his crew still kept to themselves. I doubt he would have any qualms on ratting if he got put in the situation.

Btw, was Vito Borelli made or an associate? Why would Castellano kill his daughter's boyfriend just for making a remark about him? I can somewhat understand if he's made because then he's being insubordinate, but if he isn't involved then what scumbag Castellano is.
everything you said here was false pretty much... Even Sammy the bull and demeo were close...borelli couldn't be made because in the early 70s he took the exam to be a state cop. No one gave demeo his button he was a top earner and true work horse.


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