by Nick Prango » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:12 pm
Extortion wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:53 pm
Nick Prango wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:45 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:38 am
LCN being replaced by "the Russian Mafia."
Yeah. I totally agree. That is ridiculous. The power of the Russian mob in USA is a semi-myth. It was overhyped by Hollywood and the media. The so called Russian mafia in USA is really divided and different. There are Russian, Ukrainian, Chechen, Azerbaijan, Armenian,Georgian, Polish crime groups etc. People tend to lump together these different Eastern European crime groups and call them the 'Russian mob' in a way that's very misleading and makes them out to be far more organised and structured. In reality the so called Russian mob in USA got bigged up about 20 years ago by organized crime experts and the media as the next big thing in the underworld but it never really materialised. Even in 2021 no other organised crime group in United States is as structured as LCN, and none have as much influence.
They aren’t really known for too much violence in the states but they certainly cornered the market and basically invented medicare fraud, not too mention the gas scam. Then there is the cybercrime. They seem to be more international and cell based. I can’t imagine a bunch of Vor here in the states, they tried it with that emissary guy Ivan and he didn’t work out because he probably did not understand how America’s government worked in regards to justice
My point is that comparing these eastern european ethnic crime groups ''the Russian mob" to LCN crime families is like comparing apples and oranges. These varied criminal organizations which are generally lumped together as being the “Russian Mafia” are not native born Americans in the same manner as the LCN members. They are usually foreign nationals, or recent immigrants, who simply view the United States as a large target to plunder. They aren’t looking for “territory” as it is portrayed in films and television; they are looking for opportunities to make legal and illegal profits. As you said they aren’t even really known for too much violence in USA.
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LCN being replaced by "the Russian Mafia."
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Yeah. I totally agree. That is ridiculous. The power of the Russian mob in USA is a semi-myth. It was overhyped by Hollywood and the media. The so called Russian mafia in USA is really divided and different. There are Russian, Ukrainian, Chechen, Azerbaijan, Armenian,Georgian, Polish crime groups etc. People tend to lump together these different Eastern European crime groups and call them the 'Russian mob' in a way that's very misleading and makes them out to be far more organised and structured. In reality the so called Russian mob in USA got bigged up about 20 years ago by organized crime experts and the media as the next big thing in the underworld but it never really materialised. Even in 2021 no other organised crime group in United States is as structured as LCN, and none have as much influence.
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They aren’t really known for too much violence in the states but they certainly cornered the market and basically invented medicare fraud, not too mention the gas scam. Then there is the cybercrime. They seem to be more international and cell based. I can’t imagine a bunch of Vor here in the states, they tried it with that emissary guy Ivan and he didn’t work out because he probably did not understand how America’s government worked in regards to justice
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My point is that comparing these eastern european ethnic crime groups ''the Russian mob" to LCN crime families is like comparing apples and oranges. These varied criminal organizations which are generally lumped together as being the “Russian Mafia” are not native born Americans in the same manner as the LCN members. They are usually foreign nationals, or recent immigrants, who simply view the United States as a large target to plunder. They aren’t looking for “territory” as it is portrayed in films and television; they are looking for opportunities to make legal and illegal profits. As you said they aren’t even really known for too much violence in USA.