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Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Etna » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:19 pm

Pete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
I’m not gonna go all mafia student here but the evidence of Crea being involved in meldish murder is dubious at best. Pasqua who the government wouldn’t used and said was wrong said on vlad that Crea jr (sorry mafia student) told him that “dad” knows about it. Only other person was this but evangelista who claims londonio told him after londonio denied it to people he knew really well. If you wanna say ends justify the means he deserves it either way fine but that’s not the way the justice system is supposed to work and that’s very shaky evidence for a murder. Besides the fact as someone else mentioned he was identified as underboss so he’s culpable either way.
Quick question - did they prove he's the underboss/street boss? Is it true or not true that any boss or maybe in this case, street boss can be charged of any other crimes committed by the continuing criminal enterprise in a rico charge?

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Pmac2 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:06 pm

After tommy shots and that othee guy beat like 6 murders i thought there no way crea would go down for that bullshit. They guy from springfield ma fusco beat 2 murders bf guerra beat the joe scopo murder also. Those cases were slam dunks in my mind. I did not think crea would go down where can i fing this book gulit dfir the guiltless

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by joeycigars » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:32 pm

Bruno187 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:14 pm With all the craziness that went on during this trial, and the conflicting, double dealing, then lying witnesses who testified essentially to hearsay, I thought there would be NO WAY IN HELL they'd convict Crea and Madonna. If this wasn't the very essence of "reasonable doubt" they would have to rewrite the statutes.
Agree 100 % ..Thats it in a nutshell

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Bruno187 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:14 pm

With all the craziness that went on during this trial, and the conflicting, double dealing, then lying witnesses who testified essentially to hearsay, I thought there would be NO WAY IN HELL they'd convict Crea and Madonna. If this wasn't the very essence of "reasonable doubt" they would have to rewrite the statutes. With that said, judges have great latitude in what they permit and don't permit, and it seems like Crea and Madonna were deemed perhaps innocent of the Meldish murder, but guaranteed they got away with a lotta shit in the past. Like my mother used to tell me when I got nailed for something I didn't do as a kid. "Yeah, but you probably got away with all kinds of stuff I don't know about, so forget it mister".

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Rocco » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:39 pm

what the story with Joey Perna looking to kill Pennisi?

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Cheech » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:20 pm

Did Capeci take down the Editors Note? what a smug fuck

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by funkster » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:53 pm

I still dont think it's going to be overturned and I find it hard to believe Maddona and Crea didnt know about it, but I think if anything overturns it's their current argument. It's a pretty big hole in the government's case, dont know if it's enough though.

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by mafiastudent » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:48 pm

Pete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
I’m not gonna go all mafia student here but the evidence of Crea being involved in meldish murder is dubious at best. Pasqua who the government wouldn’t used and said was wrong said on vlad that Crea jr (sorry mafia student) told him that “dad” knows about it. Only other person was this but evangelista who claims londonio told him after londonio denied it to people he knew really well. If you wanna say ends justify the means he deserves it either way fine but that’s not the way the justice system is supposed to work and that’s very shaky evidence for a murder. Besides the fact as someone else mentioned he was identified as underboss so he’s culpable either way.
It's in the book what Pasqua said about "dad" knows about it. I don't know if you're saying I was disputing that but that is the book what he said. So, I just might be reading your comment wrong (the sorry mafia student is what's throwing me.)

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Pete » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:34 pm

Etna wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
I’m not gonna go all mafia student here but the evidence of Crea being involved in meldish murder is dubious at best. Pasqua who the government wouldn’t used and said was wrong said on vlad that Crea jr (sorry mafia student) told him that “dad” knows about it. Only other person was this but evangelista who claims londonio told him after londonio denied it to people he knew really well. If you wanna say ends justify the means he deserves it either way fine but that’s not the way the justice system is supposed to work and that’s very shaky evidence for a murder. Besides the fact as someone else mentioned he was identified as underboss so he’s culpable either way.

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by JohnnyS » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:39 am

MBA and button man podcast is done. They're removing all the videos and audio from online. Pennisi is going to continue with sit down news.

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by OcSleeper » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:30 am

moneyman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:20 am Not sure if I’m missing something but did all of the MBA and Button Man podcasts get taken down from YouTube?
Yup a new video is up explaining why

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by moneyman » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:20 am

Not sure if I’m missing something but did all of the MBA and Button Man podcasts get taken down from YouTube?

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Pmac2 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:03 pm

Crea got life for the murder but i bet he got consecutive bids for the hospital shake down which sounded morw like crea loaned the guy money qho was incharge of building a hospital. Was crea found guilty of the other shit besides the murder?

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Etna » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.

Re: GL News 10/07/2021

by Mason_dixon » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 pm

nizarsoccer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:19 pm You think there are bookies who are taking this action right now? 4-1 Lucchese admin gets off?
I'd take that action. This case is a complete shit show. So you're telling me there's a chance? Bronx coming back. Ole vic Is about to have potential issues. I wouldn't of put Crea or Maddona thru that but that's just me.

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