by Wiseguy » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:27 am
newera_212 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:32 am
I've been listening to Sammy's podcast here and there, not as frequent as some of the other shows that are out. I've read Underboss too (actually reading Underboss when it dropped back when I was younger kinda got me started on being interested in LCN in general). I still don't understand how and why Sammy was on board with the hit. I mean, like I've said - I've heard some of his Podcasts including the one where they cover the conspiracy. MOST of the stuff he says about Paul is positive. He said he had a lot of admiration for him and respected him, etc. - I can't believe that conceding some contracting companies to the Genovese and letting a Captain get killed made Sammy do a complete 180. I'm sure I could go back and listen closer and maybe figure it out, but by all accounts Sammy was a "Castellano Faction" member ... what caused it? Was it DeCicco? I also think the whole "We'll let John be boss for a year and if he doesn't work out, we'll kill him and run the family ourselves" thing is bullshit and revisionist history as well. Despite the down-to-earth, laid back persona and stories of honor, etc. - maybe Sammy really was a greedy as rumored.
It was probably a combination of things. Paul giving away business to the Genovese, allowing them to kill a Gambino captain, the way Paul fraternized with "the help," his complementing law enforcement going on domestic dispute calls, his greed, etc. didn't exactly endear him to Gravano or other subordinates. Gravano recognized the ways Paul was a good boss. A very smart businessman. But Gravano had more respect for the "gangsters" than the "racketeers" (a distinction he often makes) and, once he saw the gangsters making a move, it didn't take him long to jump on board.
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I've been listening to Sammy's podcast here and there, not as frequent as some of the other shows that are out. I've read Underboss too (actually reading Underboss when it dropped back when I was younger kinda got me started on being interested in LCN in general). I still don't understand how and why Sammy was on board with the hit. I mean, like I've said - I've heard some of his Podcasts including the one where they cover the conspiracy. MOST of the stuff he says about Paul is positive. He said he had a lot of admiration for him and respected him, etc. - I can't believe that conceding some contracting companies to the Genovese and letting a Captain get killed made Sammy do a complete 180. I'm sure I could go back and listen closer and maybe figure it out, but by all accounts Sammy was a "Castellano Faction" member ... what caused it? Was it DeCicco? I also think the whole "We'll let John be boss for a year and if he doesn't work out, we'll kill him and run the family ourselves" thing is bullshit and revisionist history as well. Despite the down-to-earth, laid back persona and stories of honor, etc. - maybe Sammy really was a greedy as rumored.
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It was probably a combination of things. Paul giving away business to the Genovese, allowing them to kill a Gambino captain, the way Paul fraternized with "the help," his complementing law enforcement going on domestic dispute calls, his greed, etc. didn't exactly endear him to Gravano or other subordinates. Gravano recognized the ways Paul was a good boss. A very smart businessman. But Gravano had more respect for the "gangsters" than the "racketeers" (a distinction he often makes) and, once he saw the gangsters making a move, it didn't take him long to jump on board.