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Re: #2 in NE

by mr white » Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:04 pm

It was on these boards that he was given Norfolk County several years ago. I can't imagine how there's much gambling left there but who knows maybe those old guys don't like Encore or online sportsbooks?

Re: #2 in NE

by Eddie mush » Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:00 pm

Sol wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:38 pm
Eddie mush wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm The upper echelon of this family that guys like Scott and others all write about are all old now . Mid 70’s or even in there 80’s and most are semi retired at this point
They either have some new skippers or the end is near
Only time will tell

And yes Carmen is also in bad health constantly in and out of rehab. It’s a shame cause he to young for that
Mid 60’s I would say
VF has the most clout in NE/Boston family, cheese was given it after he got out cause VF was content. My 2.....Sol
That’s spot on. 100% correct
Not sure wat vf roll is these days if he even has one
But when he talks people listen .

Re: #2 in NE

by Sol » Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:38 pm

Eddie mush wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm The upper echelon of this family that guys like Scott and others all write about are all old now . Mid 70’s or even in there 80’s and most are semi retired at this point
They either have some new skippers or the end is near
Only time will tell

And yes Carmen is also in bad health constantly in and out of rehab. It’s a shame cause he to young for that
Mid 60’s I would say
VF has the most clout in NE/Boston family, cheese was given it after he got out cause VF was content. My 2.....Sol

Re: #2 in NE

by Eddie mush » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm

The upper echelon of this family that guys like Scott and others all write about are all old now . Mid 70’s or even in there 80’s and most are semi retired at this point
They either have some new skippers or the end is near
Only time will tell

And yes Carmen is also in bad health constantly in and out of rehab. It’s a shame cause he to young for that
Mid 60’s I would say

Re: #2 in NE

by mr white » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:49 am

Eddie mush wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:23 pm Carozza is not doing anything these days
Guys well into his 80’s , in poor health and just lost his wife . The brother runs the show now from wat I hear with some guidance from a couple of the older guys
Thanks for your posts on this topic, Eddie

Re: #2 in NE

by Eddie mush » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:23 pm

Carozza is not doing anything these days
Guys well into his 80’s , in poor health and just lost his wife . The brother runs the show now from wat I hear with some guidance from a couple of the older guys

Re: #2 in NE

by mike68 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:51 am

There have been posts (here, Reddit) that the Cheeseman may have stepped aside or at least delegated a lot due to his poor health. Sounded like the ''work' may be split up to a few guys (Spucky, Anthony D., Carrozza, Lato etc.)

Re: #2 in NE

by JakeTheSnake630 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:29 am

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 pm Pretty sure it's come out recently buddy McLean was maybe one of the first top echelon informants. If he didn't get killed that time it would have been shortly after. On the topic I wonder who is the boss in New england today?
Is it not the Cheeseman? Vinny had that weird seizure by the feds for a bunch of money, maybe they know it was illegal proceeds but couldn't prove it so they seized it? In other words maybe he is the boss but very insulated?

Re: #2 in NE

by davidf1989 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:04 pm

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 pm Pretty sure it's come out recently buddy McLean was maybe one of the first top echelon informants. If he didn't get killed that time it would have been shortly after. On the topic I wonder who is the boss in New england today?
Thanks for your reply and if Buddy McLean had survived would he and Steve Flemmi have been working together as partners in the Winter Hill Gang while feeding information on their associates such as Joe Mac mcdonald, Howie Winter, and the Angiulos to the Feds?

Re: #2 in NE

by Pmac2 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 pm

Pretty sure it's come out recently buddy McLean was maybe one of the first top echelon informants. If he didn't get killed that time it would have been shortly after. On the topic I wonder who is the boss in New england today?

Re: #2 in NE

by NewEnglandHere » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:39 am

henry tameleo he was underboss in the 60s

Re: #2 in NE

by davidf1989 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:25 pm

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:07 am I personally think if Howie was able to stay out of the can, he would have been 5x bigger than he was. He was respected by all, and had serious connections. He was a gangster's gangster, never heard any bad words about the man.
Hi Jake and what would've happened if Buddy McLean had survived the gang war in Boston?

Re: #2 in NE

by Extortion » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:16 am

Lombardo the old consigliere held alot of respect

Re: #2 in NE

by mike68 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:35 am

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:37 pm They might not be number two but a few guys who might still around that I know of;
Gerry Sarro I know he was a decent sized bookmaker at one time
Then you have Greg Costa who was idk if still is aligned with Dinunzio. Then there was the Contrada organization who had they're own lay off books and everything.
Here is something I've had but never had any need to post it till now: this was an article posted by the boston herald in the late 2010s that Peter Limone was not to come into contact with and it listed all 50+ and I quote "wiseguys." It'd be interesting to see where some of these guys are at now in the hierarchy. Boston has lots of big time bookmakers.
That list has popped up from time to time on here. A lot of the old fellas on that list aren't around anymore.

Re: #2 in NE

by mike68 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 am

Eddie mush wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:12 pm Vinny F is the power if he wants it
Nobody on the street have the resume he does
Both respected and feared if he wanted the top spot no1 one have the balls to challenge him
I don't doubt that at all. 22 years, kept his mouth shut, and he was innocent of what they charged him with. I think he's too smart to take that job now though. 22 years is enough. He's got the respect regardless. He lost a lot of friends in the 90's due to Salemme & Co's bloodlust.

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