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Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by funkster » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:34 pm

SolarSolano wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:49 pm I've never heard of Dublino's - just Vinny's which is a gaming hall in Berwyn and I believe they have a second location near Riverside. That would be interesting if he was connected to Carparelli - who was essentially working for Sarno.
Maybe it is Vinny's. My memory on it is fuzzy, but i had heard that. I also do remember a thread on the fb group of a woman with the last name Dublino seemingly going to bat for Paul while people talking shit about him in the thread. It was on a picture someone posted of him on his motorcycle.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by mafiastudent » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:06 pm

*think not thing

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by mafiastudent » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:06 pm

Does anyone thing the casino night type thing run by private companies are "mobbed-up" as Hagan Scotten said today? I ask because the people who work at those are all paid in cash and they don't get w-2s...not that that's illegal (i do a lot of freelancing with no w-2s). Just curious.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by SolarSolano » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:49 pm

I've never heard of Dublino's - just Vinny's which is a gaming hall in Berwyn and I believe they have a second location near Riverside. That would be interesting if he was connected to Carparelli - who was essentially working for Sarno.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Ozgoz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:27 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:11 pm
Ozgoz wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:00 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:15 am
If your going to sound intellectual please use words correctly in a sentence like effeminate and only if you use metaphors/analogies "mcnuggets short of a happy meal" is the first I heard of it to explain someones mental capacity and first I heard it ever! The only thing comical on here is you playing dr melfi on trying to dissect how someone feels the way they do about something. Hes passionate and may always be cheering for the mob guys to win, but so what. Hes not trying to be sometbing hes not.
Come on man....re-read that again and ask yourself, honestly, if you’re happy with your grammar.
On this forum? I am. But I am being trivial criticising yours. Im not on here to try impress with my language skills or how efficient I can use a thesauraus.
You’re missing two apostrophes and a ‘to.’ Although as an Englishman I do appreciate the Anglicised spelling of ‘criticising’, very nice.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Tonyd621 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:11 pm

Ozgoz wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:00 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:15 am
If your going to sound intellectual please use words correctly in a sentence like effeminate and only if you use metaphors/analogies "mcnuggets short of a happy meal" is the first I heard of it to explain someones mental capacity and first I heard it ever! The only thing comical on here is you playing dr melfi on trying to dissect how someone feels the way they do about something. Hes passionate and may always be cheering for the mob guys to win, but so what. Hes not trying to be sometbing hes not.
Come on man....re-read that again and ask yourself, honestly, if you’re happy with your grammar.
On this forum? I am. But I am being trivial criticising yours. Im not on here to try impress with my language skills or how efficient I can use a thesauraus.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Ozgoz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:00 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:15 am
If your going to sound intellectual please use words correctly in a sentence like effeminate and only if you use metaphors/analogies "mcnuggets short of a happy meal" is the first I heard of it to explain someones mental capacity and first I heard it ever! The only thing comical on here is you playing dr melfi on trying to dissect how someone feels the way they do about something. Hes passionate and may always be cheering for the mob guys to win, but so what. Hes not trying to be sometbing hes not.
Come on man....re-read that again and ask yourself, honestly, if you’re happy with your grammar.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Ozgoz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:55 pm

mafiastudent wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:35 am The only thing I'm going to say if I'm "weird" for going over legal documents to make sure the facts are straight what does that mean for you to be on here just listening to hearsay and rumors and gossip? And contributing to all that bullshit?

And yes, I'm beyond "the only thing I'm going to say" but legal documents are considered research? Or is it because I"m a female researching and not a man. I'm a journalist. I've written about a lot of things and a lot of subjects. Theres no "disproportionate" amount of time if that's what my career is and what my "specialty" is at the moment. And clearly, the amount of time I spend fighting is proportionate to the amount of time you spend on here with your opinions not based on facts. I can back up everything I opinionate on. You want to believe a "rat" (accurate statement BTW) and the government fed narrative of bullshit that's your perogative. But if you really analyze Pennisi's testimony...can you really as an intelligent person take it at face value? None of it seems odd or scripted to you for someone to describe a making ceremony the way he did with such detail? Or that he testified to things with no corroborating evidence? Or that some of what he testified to was hearsay? AKA GOSSIP? Plus let's not forget the guy try committing suicide in prison and was delusional and was classified as such, I believe (paranoid delusional) by a medical professional. But we should believe every word that comes out of his mouth.

Also, I'm not "cheering for the mob guys to win." It has nothing to do with winning or losing but being given a fair shake under the justice system without BS. And before someone says well, why not investigate other areas, my interest is organized crime so therefore that's what my focus is.

And as far as what 'm doing, does anyone even question why there isn't transparency with anything? Why has the govt put a protective order on discovery material? If they proved their case then let the public see what they based their case on other than what was at trial. The trial is over. Why seal presentencing document of informants? Why hide the deal you made with them and what you said about them before they were given their new and improved sentence? If they're so confident in that they've done and presented is justice at work, then let us see everything then there would be no question.

But that's not how it works.
You being a woman doesn’t change my opinion, if you were male I’d still think you were nuts.

I’m mostly just busting your balls. Keep doing your thing, you are making a unique contribution and it’s good to get all the perspectives and angles.

One thing I would like to say, for the record, you often accuse me of swallowing the government narrative, I don’t, I think they’re crooks too, so it’s important to imprint that distinction. I’m anti government... I didn’t even vaccinate my kids! :?

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by funkster » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:04 pm

Was going to say, we've moved quite a bit off topic here.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Villain » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:22 pm

mafiastudent wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:34 am And I want to make one more statement about protective orders and I'm going to use Andrew Campos as an example. Almost immediately after the indictment (which was sealed and the defense actually had to file a motion to unseal. And then the government wanted to redact portions of that indictment which then was ordered to be released without redactment) the govt put in a motion for protective order on discovery material.

So, let me ask you this...if the government uses portions of that discovery material that they want under protective order to put out their press releases before indictment release - and obviously it's portions/statements/blurbs that will help their case before the public, before jury is chosen, why not just open it all up?

Another good example of this is during John Gambino's trial some of the media reports about Lorenzo Mannino that the govt put out was when they raided his house they found a "hitman's kit" just to juice up the case. So, if that's evidence that needs to be protected, why are they allowed to release that and not everything else.

With Andrew Campos, it was the alleged meetings about Cali's death and that pic of Campos visiting Locascio. Isn't that all evidence? But yet they release that for headlines and juice to further their narrative, but everything else is sealed up.

Doesn't make sense...but that's just me.
Lets stick to Sarno, shall we dear?! :D

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by mafiastudent » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:34 am

And I want to make one more statement about protective orders and I'm going to use Andrew Campos as an example. Almost immediately after the indictment (which was sealed and the defense actually had to file a motion to unseal. And then the government wanted to redact portions of that indictment which then was ordered to be released without redactment) the govt put in a motion for protective order on discovery material.

So, let me ask you this...if the government uses portions of that discovery material that they want under protective order to put out their press releases before indictment release - and obviously it's portions/statements/blurbs that will help their case before the public, before jury is chosen, why not just open it all up?

Another good example of this is during John Gambino's trial some of the media reports about Lorenzo Mannino that the govt put out was when they raided his house they found a "hitman's kit" just to juice up the case. So, if that's evidence that needs to be protected, why are they allowed to release that and not everything else.

With Andrew Campos, it was the alleged meetings about Cali's death and that pic of Campos visiting Locascio. Isn't that all evidence? But yet they release that for headlines and juice to further their narrative, but everything else is sealed up.

Doesn't make sense...but that's just me.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by funkster » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:10 am

SolarSolano wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:31 am
funkster wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:31 am
SolarSolano wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:09 am Dublino's brother Carmine worked with Carlisi's crew I believe in the 80s. Vince and Sarno also were partners for years - I don't know if Vince is with another crew or on his own but he went to court and testified - he's also under indictment himself right now, no?
Yeah, i think he was indicted over those gambling machines. Surprisingly, dont think he was on the up and up.
Vince is making money with the legal gaming parlors he does have though - but I wonder if they are all closed down right now and he's just losing money. He also looks to have other brothers who are running gaming services - see the link below about Pasquale Dublino, who I assume is another brother. Do you know if Vince Dublino is related to anyone through marriage or anything else?

https://www.igb.illinois.gov/FilesBoard ... inutes.pdf
I'm trying to go through my notes, I think there's a possibility that his sister is somehow romantically involved with Paul Carparelli? Not sure. Do you know if Vince owns Dublino's? I've also heard Carparelli had his return from prison party there, tho i cant verify obviously...just something I heard.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by mafiastudent » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:35 am

The only thing I'm going to say if I'm "weird" for going over legal documents to make sure the facts are straight what does that mean for you to be on here just listening to hearsay and rumors and gossip? And contributing to all that bullshit?

And yes, I'm beyond "the only thing I'm going to say" but legal documents are considered research? Or is it because I"m a female researching and not a man. I'm a journalist. I've written about a lot of things and a lot of subjects. Theres no "disproportionate" amount of time if that's what my career is and what my "specialty" is at the moment. And clearly, the amount of time I spend fighting is proportionate to the amount of time you spend on here with your opinions not based on facts. I can back up everything I opinionate on. You want to believe a "rat" (accurate statement BTW) and the government fed narrative of bullshit that's your perogative. But if you really analyze Pennisi's testimony...can you really as an intelligent person take it at face value? None of it seems odd or scripted to you for someone to describe a making ceremony the way he did with such detail? Or that he testified to things with no corroborating evidence? Or that some of what he testified to was hearsay? AKA GOSSIP? Plus let's not forget the guy try committing suicide in prison and was delusional and was classified as such, I believe (paranoid delusional) by a medical professional. But we should believe every word that comes out of his mouth.

Also, I'm not "cheering for the mob guys to win." It has nothing to do with winning or losing but being given a fair shake under the justice system without BS. And before someone says well, why not investigate other areas, my interest is organized crime so therefore that's what my focus is.

And as far as what 'm doing, does anyone even question why there isn't transparency with anything? Why has the govt put a protective order on discovery material? If they proved their case then let the public see what they based their case on other than what was at trial. The trial is over. Why seal presentencing document of informants? Why hide the deal you made with them and what you said about them before they were given their new and improved sentence? If they're so confident in that they've done and presented is justice at work, then let us see everything then there would be no question.

But that's not how it works.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Tonyd621 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:15 am

Ozgoz wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:17 am
Fughedaboutit wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm
Ozgoz wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:48 am
mafiastudent wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:38 pm It actually costs less for these guys to be out of prison on home confinement than sitting in prison. Not advocating for this guy just making a comment. (However Joseph DiNapoli is a different story...no reason not to have home confinement for an illegal gambling charge...but I won't harp on that...)
From chin’s other thread, from the John Pennisi testimony;

“He [Matthew Madonna] said that we were -- as a member of the Family, I was never to go after or try to date anybody's wife or another member's wife or girlfriend, for that matter; that I was not to put my hands on any other member, but if they put their hands on me, just kill them and we would sort it out afterwards.”

So Madonna and DiNapoli are of course in the same Luchesse admin. They’re non fussed about killing people for whatever misdemeanour they sit fit. Yet you are suggesting they release DiNapoli, an old man on a gambling charge.

This is a prime example as to why you come across as a crack pot.

Why are all the broads on these forums mental? Tag, that Ann who used to back and forth with Louie in the early 2000s, I’m sure there’s a few others.
What does hearsay from a rat have to do with the gambling charge? She presents a decent argument and you get offended and talk about "crazy broads" on the forum and go off on a tangent. Female issues? WOW. smh.
If I come across as offended then you’ve misread the tone. I’ve just read what I wrote about 15 times because I’m a nice guy and always value other people’s opinion but I’m struggling to see where you’ve misread that. Maybe the last paragraph I could’ve added some trailing dots... for wistful effect. But there were certainly no exclamation marks, so it looks like you’ve made a big mistake there.

But let’s, for a laugh, take your response apart...

We have a lady here who spends a disproportionate amount of time fighting, including writing blogs and crawling over legal documents, proclaiming the innocence of murderers and criminals based on those who only are part of a certain Italian American subculture.

Are you honestly, hand on heart, telling me that is not weird? If you don’t think that’s weird then you must be about 12. In fact you might be because you use terms like “WOW” like an effeminate coffee table psychologist fag. Which only got worse with the teenage internet three letter acronym you subsequently wheeled out.

As Pogo listed, we have had a string of very crazy women on these forums. MS, Tag, Ann and Caso are/were all a few McNuggets short of a happy meal. It’s just a fact, that I was commenting on, it didn’t need white-knighting and it doesn’t mean I have women issues.

What also makes people look mental is selective fact picking. Pennisi is a rat with hearsay but DiNapoli is just an old man with a gambling charge. This is a dangerous game to play because selective adjectives and monikers loosely applied to fit a narrative is poor form and is what children, and adults with an agenda do. When you read the work of some of the great researchers on this site they don’t pepper their posts with comical and emotive characterisations to skew or slant the perspective.

I would quit with the amateur psychology and look a little closer to home at your biases and triggers.

Thanks.
If your going to sound intellectual please use words correctly in a sentence like effeminate and only if you use metaphors/analogies "mcnuggets short of a happy meal" is the first I heard of it to explain someones mental capacity and first I heard it ever! The only thing comical on here is you playing dr melfi on trying to dissect how someone feels the way they do about something. Hes passionate and may always be cheering for the mob guys to win, but so what. Hes not trying to be sometbing hes not.

Re: Mike Sarno requesting release

by Patrickgold » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:49 am

SolarSolano wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:37 am Also interesting to see the pizza place on Lawrence - Villa Napoli - getting its license revoked. That pizza place is owned by Peter Pavone, who tried to run for President of the Village of Norridge a few years ago. I wonder if Pavone is mobbed-up.
I know he use to have a restaurant on the 7500 block of Irving called Pavone’s, right across from Norridge. It been closed down at least 7 or 8 years ago. Some Outfit guys would go there. I am unsure how connected he is. obviously was not enough since he didn’t win the Mayor election 😂

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