This Thing Of Ours
Skip to content
by gohnjotti » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:20 pm
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:09 pm Frankie blue eyes Sparaco from the Perscio Faction gave information that the Cutolo hit was ordered by Allie Boy Persico according to this article. https://www.ozy.com/true-and-stories/th ... rat/79914/
by davidf1989 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:09 pm
by Dapper_Don » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:31 am
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:08 pm NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:36 pm Fuck DeRoss - he was a scumbag. Vic Orena would have been a great boss over anyone from the Columbos. Is the son still banging his attorney? I miss Wild Bill - he was a gentleman but naive to trust Persico. Interesting story about the Cutolo hit. When bagging up Cutolo's body in Dino Saracino's basement, Joe Competiello and Saracino found tens of thousands of dollars on Cutolo's body. The pair reported this to Tommy Gioeli and Dino Calabro, who were waiting outside keeping lookout. Gioeli told the pair to split the cash between themselves. Consider it a nice little bonus for a job well done. The day after, Gioeli and Dino Calabro drove out to Hempstead, L.I., to confirm the hit to Allie Persico. They met at a Nissan dealership owned by the brother of John Staluppi. Persico asked who pulled the trigger; Calabro confirmed it was him. Persico asked who was at the scene, and Calabro named Competiello and Saracino. Then, Persico asked if Cutolo drove himself there. Calabro said no, Cutolo had been driven there by an unknown individual. The whereabouts of his Ford Expedition were unknown. That's when Persico told them that he had asked Cutolo to bring $70,000 with him to the meeting - he did not elaborate why. Persico assumed the cash was in Cutolo's Ford Expedition: Gioeli and Calabro didn't bother to correct him. Then we've got John DeRoss, who - the very same day - was at Cutolo's house, trying to find his own little slice of Cutolo's fortune. Such scumbags. You also had Joe Campanella at the funeral, bawling his eyes out, even though he had been on the outs with Cutolo for the previous year-or-two, since he owed Cutolo hundreds of thousands of dollars, hadn't been even keeping up with the vig, and then went and bought himself a new Mercedes in '98 or so. I'm sure those were tears of relief from Campanella, having gotten off the hook for six-figure sum. Such a classic tale of treachery, so stereotypically "Colombo." Well, it would be unfair to call it stereotypically Colombo. I guess all the families are equally as treacherous. Just to add to the treachery, Allie wanted Gioeli to initially commit the Cutolo hit with Vinny DeMartino. Gioeli was convinced that the murder of Cutolo would actually be a set-up for Gioeli's own murder, as punishment for his role in the Ralph Dols hit.
NYNighthawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:36 pm Fuck DeRoss - he was a scumbag. Vic Orena would have been a great boss over anyone from the Columbos. Is the son still banging his attorney? I miss Wild Bill - he was a gentleman but naive to trust Persico.
by Dapper_Don » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:28 am
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:26 am Deross didnt order or plan the murder. He knew but does that warrant a life sentence I wonder?
by gohnjotti » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:08 pm
by NYNighthawk » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:36 pm
by Pmac2 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:27 am
by Pmac2 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:26 am
by Pogo The Clown » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:14 am
by chubby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:45 pm
Mikeymike12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm chubby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:07 pm Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:32 am Allie Boy is also not the sharpest knife in the drawer by repeatedly calling Cutolo several times the day before the murder on a phone he knew the Feds were monitoring. That and Jackie DeRoss showing up at Cutolos residence looking for his records right after the hit is what really sunk both of them. Pogo Yeah you’re right, you would think Allie jr would be so well schooled that he would be extremely sharp and know all the tricks. But like you said.. using a phone line that you gave to your parole as your line... along with him getting caught with a shotgun on his boat in Florida is just so idiotic. Especially the gun charge, which basically snowballed to cause all of this to happen, why on earth did he need a shotgun on his boat down in Florida???? Honestly? So stupid... deross constantly harassing the Cutolo family the second he disappeared was just such a fiend move... it’s like he had 2 pennies in his pocket and needed wild bills money that exact second... crazy he wasn’t looking too hard cause he missed the 1.5 million in the stove vent in the kitchen... pretty cool of the fbi to have knowledge of that 1.5 million that was stashed and were human enough to look the other way and allow Cutolos wife to keep it... Also, did Wild Bill never give Allie all the accounting of his rackets he had going on? Just wondering cause you would think if he did that deross wouldn’t have been trying so hard to get a hold of books of Shylock customers, ect... god deross was honestly such a snake piece of shit... comes home to see his good friend (was best man at his wedding) doing well on the street, a monster earner.. and instead of being happy for the guy and maybe trying to get some business ventures set up with him, instead he gets behind Allie to kill him thinking it’s easier to just take what he has... which never even ended up happening.... dumb brokester.... Allie jr. I think cams to terms at a young age that he was going to be doing life one day, so seems like he didn’t really give a fuck... he still must be calling the shots, I don’t know if he’s still married. But his wife, or ex wife has a gorgeous house down in Florida.. I’m sure paid for with all money from Allie jr.... Where did the 1.5 million in the stove vent story come from? Never heard about that one. Cutolo Jr is doing a bunch of podcasts these days as well , he says he was a member of the Colombos Lol. (They say it thoughout the podcast ) . Is Andrew Russo still Acting boss? I wonder how how much is Accurate with their borgata these days , #captains , leaderships roles , making ceremonies .....
chubby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:07 pm Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:32 am Allie Boy is also not the sharpest knife in the drawer by repeatedly calling Cutolo several times the day before the murder on a phone he knew the Feds were monitoring. That and Jackie DeRoss showing up at Cutolos residence looking for his records right after the hit is what really sunk both of them. Pogo Yeah you’re right, you would think Allie jr would be so well schooled that he would be extremely sharp and know all the tricks. But like you said.. using a phone line that you gave to your parole as your line... along with him getting caught with a shotgun on his boat in Florida is just so idiotic. Especially the gun charge, which basically snowballed to cause all of this to happen, why on earth did he need a shotgun on his boat down in Florida???? Honestly? So stupid... deross constantly harassing the Cutolo family the second he disappeared was just such a fiend move... it’s like he had 2 pennies in his pocket and needed wild bills money that exact second... crazy he wasn’t looking too hard cause he missed the 1.5 million in the stove vent in the kitchen... pretty cool of the fbi to have knowledge of that 1.5 million that was stashed and were human enough to look the other way and allow Cutolos wife to keep it... Also, did Wild Bill never give Allie all the accounting of his rackets he had going on? Just wondering cause you would think if he did that deross wouldn’t have been trying so hard to get a hold of books of Shylock customers, ect... god deross was honestly such a snake piece of shit... comes home to see his good friend (was best man at his wedding) doing well on the street, a monster earner.. and instead of being happy for the guy and maybe trying to get some business ventures set up with him, instead he gets behind Allie to kill him thinking it’s easier to just take what he has... which never even ended up happening.... dumb brokester.... Allie jr. I think cams to terms at a young age that he was going to be doing life one day, so seems like he didn’t really give a fuck... he still must be calling the shots, I don’t know if he’s still married. But his wife, or ex wife has a gorgeous house down in Florida.. I’m sure paid for with all money from Allie jr....
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:32 am Allie Boy is also not the sharpest knife in the drawer by repeatedly calling Cutolo several times the day before the murder on a phone he knew the Feds were monitoring. That and Jackie DeRoss showing up at Cutolos residence looking for his records right after the hit is what really sunk both of them. Pogo
by chubby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:43 pm
by falco » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:52 pm
DeRoss searched Cutolo's office, the bedrooms, and the attic, going through drawers, cabinets, and bookshelves, looking behind and under furniture, and knocking on walls to locate secret panels. (See id. at 300-01, 598-99.) Peggy Cutolo knew there were records, as well as money — $1.65 million, as it turned out, see Part II.D.1. below — hidden in a vent above the stove and in tubing in the attic, but she repeatedly stonewalled DeRoss.
by Mikeymike12 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
by NYNighthawk » Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:50 am
by Shellackhead » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:08 pm
Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:52 pm gohnjotti wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:13 pm Shellackhead wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:40 pm What happened to the rest of the Orena faction loyalist & his 4 sons after the war? The rest of the Orena faction, aside from certain factions like the Colombo Bros. Crew or “the Long Island guys”, came back into the family amicably. Most of the wayward Long Island guys were brought back into the fold by the turn of the millennium, while the Colombo Bros. Crew continued to be a renegade crew until their 2004 indictment. Orena and his two made sons were all arrested. They got out of prison around 2000 IIRC, and they weren’t involved in the Life after that (it appears), as both made members collaborated with the “Deal with the Devil” book about Greg Scarpa. Is there anywhere to get more info about the renegade Colombo brothers crew? That’s pretty interesting
gohnjotti wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:13 pm Shellackhead wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:40 pm What happened to the rest of the Orena faction loyalist & his 4 sons after the war? The rest of the Orena faction, aside from certain factions like the Colombo Bros. Crew or “the Long Island guys”, came back into the family amicably. Most of the wayward Long Island guys were brought back into the fold by the turn of the millennium, while the Colombo Bros. Crew continued to be a renegade crew until their 2004 indictment. Orena and his two made sons were all arrested. They got out of prison around 2000 IIRC, and they weren’t involved in the Life after that (it appears), as both made members collaborated with the “Deal with the Devil” book about Greg Scarpa.
Shellackhead wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:40 pm What happened to the rest of the Orena faction loyalist & his 4 sons after the war?
Top