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Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Wiseguy » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:16 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:11 pm The mobs been running on fumes for 10-15 yrs then. Well now 20 yrs of fumes
Nobody said that. The point was, years people were exaggerating the status of the Outfit. And it's still going on, though to a much lesser extent, fortunately.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Tonyd621 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:11 pm

The mobs been running on fumes for 10-15 yrs then. Well now 20 yrs of fumes

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Wiseguy » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:48 am

ThomasSpears wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:54 am Mafia families treated like hometown sports teams.... unreal.. back to lurking.
It was even worse a 10-15 years ago. Way worse. Back then, to listen to people, the Outfit still had 7 crews, 70+ members, hundreds of associates, and had Chicago in a vice grip. Family Secrets helped remedy a lot of that.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by ThomasSpears » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:54 am

Why don’t you dorks just reach out to vena and pay him some tribute money. Then you can argue they are still viable.. true testament to our times.. the insane run the asylum now. Mafia families treated like hometown sports teams.... unreal.. back to lurking.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Tonyd621 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:50 am

Confederate wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:42 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:46 pm
Confederate wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:22 am
Mason_dixon wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
Don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic. However, if you are serious, the answer is that if we don't have a consistent standard of reference on this Board about the Mafia which would be the Feds who know way more than any poster here, then the only other criteria for all discussions would revolve around a bunch of bullshitting local assholes claiming outrageous things with no facts to back them up.

If you believe the Outfit is "rebuilding" & "growing in strength & power" (which is the complete opposite of reality) then I have some swamp land to sell you in the everglades that is prime real estate.
All your posts are the same man. You believe the government explicitly. Your not very ambiguous in your thinking. Whatever the say is the truth. And that's the end of it. Right? Thats what you think.
Thanks for backing me up. It’s all about funding they want us to believe the mob is on its last leg and close to death but they just need this amount of money for salaries, bonuses, company vehicles and the best health insurance there is to offer. It’s all government overreach which is a comfy train till China litterally owns us as slabeszdtf
I'm glad you've got it all figured without a shred of proof so that it all fits neatly into your "fanboy logic" & makes you feel good that the Outfit isn't "Running On Fumes". Thanks for telling us. Anything else we need to know.....? :roll:
You dont have a shred of proof either! Just some words some guy in a suit said. I know jeff sallett is some high speed, high caliber guy who terminates anything he sets his eyes on. The minute he mentioned the outfit they all just were set on fire and vanished from the earth.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Confederate » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:22 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:42 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:46 pm
Confederate wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:22 am
Mason_dixon wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
Don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic. However, if you are serious, the answer is that if we don't have a consistent standard of reference on this Board about the Mafia which would be the Feds who know way more than any poster here, then the only other criteria for all discussions would revolve around a bunch of bullshitting local assholes claiming outrageous things with no facts to back them up.

If you believe the Outfit is "rebuilding" & "growing in strength & power" (which is the complete opposite of reality) then I have some swamp land to sell you in the everglades that is prime real estate.
All your posts are the same man. You believe the government explicitly. Your not very ambiguous in your thinking. Whatever the say is the truth. And that's the end of it. Right? Thats what you think.
Thanks for backing me up. It’s all about funding they want us to believe the mob is on its last leg and close to death but they just need this amount of money for salaries, bonuses, company vehicles and the best health insurance there is to offer. It’s all government overreach which is a comfy train till China litterally owns us as slabeszdtf
I'm glad you've got it all figured without a shred of proof so that it all fits neatly into your "fanboy logic" & makes you feel good that the Outfit isn't "Running On Fumes". Thanks for telling us. Anything else we need to know.....? :roll:

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:12 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:42 pm [quote=Tonyd621 post_id=156346 time=<a href="tel:1592164015">1592164015</a> user_id=6287]
[quote=Confederate post_id=156328 time=<a href="tel:1592158923">1592158923</a> user_id=5427]
[quote=Mason_dixon post_id=156228 time=<a href="tel:1592106421">1592106421</a> user_id=5857]
I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
Don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic. However, if you are serious, the answer is that if we don't have a consistent standard of reference on this Board about the Mafia which would be the Feds who know way more than any poster here, then the only other criteria for all discussions would revolve around a bunch of bullshitting local assholes claiming outrageous things with no facts to back them up.

If you believe the Outfit is "rebuilding" & "growing in strength & power" (which is the complete opposite of reality) then I have some swamp land to sell you in the everglades that is prime real estate.
[/quote]

All your posts are the same man. You believe the government explicitly. Your not very ambiguous in your thinking. Whatever the say is the truth. And that's the end of it. Right? Thats what you think.
[/quote]

Thanks for backing me up. It’s all about funding they want us to believe the mob is on its last leg and close to death but they just need this amount of money for salaries, bonuses, company vehicles and the best health insurance there is to offer. It’s all government overreach which is a comfy train till China litterally owns us as slabeszdtf
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Your post makes no sense. Down playing LCN means a need for less agents, less overtime, budget reductions, agent reassignments, less funding for the OC divisions, etc. If anything they would be hyping up the threat of LCN to increase their funding and job security.


Pogo

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Mason_dixon » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:42 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:46 pm
Confederate wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:22 am
Mason_dixon wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
Don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic. However, if you are serious, the answer is that if we don't have a consistent standard of reference on this Board about the Mafia which would be the Feds who know way more than any poster here, then the only other criteria for all discussions would revolve around a bunch of bullshitting local assholes claiming outrageous things with no facts to back them up.

If you believe the Outfit is "rebuilding" & "growing in strength & power" (which is the complete opposite of reality) then I have some swamp land to sell you in the everglades that is prime real estate.
All your posts are the same man. You believe the government explicitly. Your not very ambiguous in your thinking. Whatever the say is the truth. And that's the end of it. Right? Thats what you think.
Thanks for backing me up. It’s all about funding they want us to believe the mob is on its last leg and close to death but they just need this amount of money for salaries, bonuses, company vehicles and the best health insurance there is to offer. It’s all government overreach which is a comfy train till China litterally owns us as slabeszdtf

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Wiseguy » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:24 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:26 pm Why dont you guys just start a LE forum? Where we believe things that LE says and does and only go by that?
B/C if they said it. It must be true. Family Secrets 2?
Unsolved murders? Theres still a quite a few. Vena Indictment? And nothing? Must all be LE.
Everything I say is immediatley discounted bc LE has an opinion that differs. Does anyone every entertain an opinion other then LE's?
I'd address your post above but I can't make much sense of most of it.

Anyway, I like to think the Black Hand is a getting to the truth forum. And we've seen again and again that law enforcement is usually the most consistent way of getting to the truth.

Opinions are fine but, if anyone has an opinion that differs from law enforcement, they damn well should have something significant to back it up. If you or others have something like that, I'm all ears.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Confederate » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:26 pm Why dont you guys just start a LE forum? Where we believe things that LE says and does and only go by that?
Everything I say is immediatley discounted bc LE has an opinion that differs. Does anyone every entertain an opinion other then LE's?
You are correct about everything you say means nothing compared to the F.B.I Director. I agree with you on that statement 100%.

So, therefore, YOU need to start your own Forum called "the Chicago Outfit Fanboy Club" where all facts by the F.B.I. are immediately discounted & your Forum will be run by people like you who only want "pump up" the dying "home team" where you can be happy & mentally masturbate over it & ignore the lying Feds who don't know anything. Good luck with it. :)

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Tonyd621 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:26 pm

Why dont you guys just start a LE forum? Where we believe things that LE says and does and only go by that?
B/C if they said it. It must be true. Family Secrets 2?
Unsolved murders? Theres still a quite a few. Vena Indictment? And nothing? Must all be LE.
Everything I say is immediatley discounted bc LE has an opinion that differs. Does anyone every entertain an opinion other then LE's?

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Wiseguy » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:24 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:50 amNah, your wrong. He said running on fumes in '16.' Even if you are right. There was no federal indictments. He didnt make any. Not one arrest, not one Rico. Unless, Sallet arrested and jailed every last remaining outfitmember and didnt want the publicity for it. And secretly they are done, bc sallett says so.
The fact you're basically trying to argue that no indictments could mean they're stronger than we think says something.

Other than rambling off some names, and saying there are "still social clubs," etc. you (and certain others here) really haven't supported your belief at all. Hence, I'm inclined to think it's speculation based on wishful thinking more than anything else.

And while I agree we shouldn't just look at a single comment apart from everything else, I also recall after the Family Secrets case Ronald Goldstock said, "What you're seeing in Chicago and elsewhere are mopping up operations."

Apart from the greater NY metro area, where the mob is still considered a priority, "mopping up operations" seems to be the case for the New England, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Chicago families. I'm usually not one for predictions but, if you guys think we're going to see substantial evidence supporting your theory of a stronger Outfit, I think you're going to be disappointed.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Frank » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:07 pm

He wasnt here long. The Alderman Eddie Burke case probably started before he arrived, but the arrest came on his watch. But I think for him to make the running on fumes statement, I believe Sallet wouldnt have said it, if he hadnt assessed the situation and come to his conclusion that I think he really believes.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Frank » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:42 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:50 am
Confederate wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:41 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:46 am
Frank wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:34 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:46 pm
Confederate wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:40 pm
Frank wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:09 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
When the new Chicago FBI Chief comes in talking about taking on the Outfit and leaves 2 years later saying that the Outfit is running on fumes just cannot be ignored.
100% correct. So, what are my choices? Either I believe the F.B.I. Director who was there for 2 years or I believe a fan crying about what he stated? For me, it's not a difficult choice at all. :)
So what's the point of being on here then if your not willing to entertain anyone elses opinion but your own about LE?
Hey the feds still list them as a viable family
For the record and the point is he said they were running on fumes when he first came into his position in chicago. Not when he left. So, he said that in 2016-17 not recently.
Sorry, Wrong Again. When Sallet first started, he said he was going to "Put the Final Nail in The Coffin Of The Outfit". When he left two years later, he said "The Outfit is "Running On Fumes".
Nah, your wrong. He said running on fumes in '16.' Even if you are right. There was no federal indictments. He didnt make any. Not one arrest, not one Rico. Unless, Sallet arrested and jailed every last remaining outfitmember and didnt want the publicity for it. And secretly they are done, bc sallett says so.
I believe he came to Chicago, actually it had to be 2017, because I was a BHF member. Wasnt a member in 2016. I believe Confederate is right.He came in saying he hadnt forgot about the Outfit. And left saying the mob in Chicago is running on fumes. That was last year, 2019.He was here in Chicago for about 2 years.

Re: DOWNFALL OF CHICAGO MOB’S CHICAGO HEIGHTS CREW CAN BE TRACED BACK TO NORTHWEST INDIANA

by Tonyd621 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:50 am

Confederate wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:41 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:46 am
Frank wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:34 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:46 pm
Confederate wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:40 pm
Frank wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:09 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm I don’t know why so many of you believe anything A federal law enforcement says. I believe Chicago is far from over And there’s so many other problems there that’s one Of their least worries. I believe they are rebuilding and growing in strength and power.
When the new Chicago FBI Chief comes in talking about taking on the Outfit and leaves 2 years later saying that the Outfit is running on fumes just cannot be ignored.
100% correct. So, what are my choices? Either I believe the F.B.I. Director who was there for 2 years or I believe a fan crying about what he stated? For me, it's not a difficult choice at all. :)
So what's the point of being on here then if your not willing to entertain anyone elses opinion but your own about LE?
Hey the feds still list them as a viable family
For the record and the point is he said they were running on fumes when he first came into his position in chicago. Not when he left. So, he said that in 2016-17 not recently.
Sorry, Wrong Again. When Sallet first started, he said he was going to "Put the Final Nail in The Coffin Of The Outfit". When he left two years later, he said "The Outfit is "Running On Fumes".
Nah, your wrong. He said running on fumes in '16.' Even if you are right. There was no federal indictments. He didnt make any. Not one arrest, not one Rico. Unless, Sallet arrested and jailed every last remaining outfitmember and didnt want the publicity for it. And secretly they are done, bc sallett says so.

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