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Re: RE: Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Confederate » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:27 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:04 pm
Lupara wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:31 pm
Wiseguy wrote:
Frank wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am
Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.
They are a viable family but more on par with the few other remaining small, weak families outside New York, i.e New Jersey, New England, and Philadelphia.
I cannot believe you forget to mention Buffalo. As a man of facts, you should know of the fact of their existence. Shame on you WG. All credit lost, forever.
Can't imagine how I could have missed that.
It was an accidental oversight. :mrgreen:

Re: RE: Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Wiseguy » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:04 pm

Lupara wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:31 pm
Wiseguy wrote:
Frank wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am
Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.
They are a viable family but more on par with the few other remaining small, weak families outside New York, i.e New Jersey, New England, and Philadelphia.
I cannot believe you forget to mention Buffalo. As a man of facts, you should know of the fact of their existance. Shame on you WG. All credit lost, forever.
Can't imagine how I could have missed that.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Villain » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:02 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am They wer constantly in the news and have had more media coverage than any other family.
Thanks to their "creator" Al Capone. From that point on they were labeled as secretive criminal organization and were not able to dodge the media even for a second, which was only one of the main reasons on why they had different type of hierarchy and also had large numbers of high level associates. I mean, they were still called the "Capone" Mob by the media even during the 1960's.

Re: RE: Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Lupara » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:31 pm

Wiseguy wrote:
Frank wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am
Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.
They are a viable family but more on par with the few other remaining small, weak families outside New York, i.e New Jersey, New England, and Philadelphia.
I cannot believe you forget to mention Buffalo. As a man of facts, you should know of the fact of their existance. Shame on you WG. All credit lost, forever.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Wiseguy » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:17 pm

Frank wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am
Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.
They are a viable family but more on par with the few other remaining small, weak families outside New York, i.e New Jersey, New England, and Philadelphia.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Moscone65 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:44 pm

Frank wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am
Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.
I agree frank

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Confederate » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:43 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:32 pm
Confederate wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am And Chicago is hardly a secretive group. They are one of the most brazen and in your face families of all time. They were constantly in the news and have had more media coverage than any other family.


Pogo
Sarno hiring bikers to "bomb" a legitimate poker machine company and Panozzo with his small crew of government informants "robbing" a drug stash house set up by the F.B.I. are about as brazen as you can get. Nothing secretive about it. The Feds knew every move in advance.
Sarno was secret enough to avoid getting indicted for the zizzo hit.
Nobody really knows the full story of the Zizzo hit. Doesn't matter, Sarno is rotting in Jail anyway. Despite anyone's cheerleading for the Chicago Outfit Football team, They're in the last part of the 4rth Quarter down 21-0. Doesn't look good at all.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by slimshady_007 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:32 pm

Confederate wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am And Chicago is hardly a secretive group. They are one of the most brazen and in your face families of all time. They were constantly in the news and have had more media coverage than any other family.


Pogo
Sarno hiring bikers to "bomb" a legitimate poker machine company and Panozzo with his small crew of government informants "robbing" a drug stash house set up by the F.B.I. are about as brazen as you can get. Nothing secretive about it. The Feds knew every move in advance.
Sarno was secret enough to avoid getting indicted for the zizzo hit.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Confederate » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am And Chicago is hardly a secretive group. They are one of the most brazen and in your face families of all time. They were constantly in the news and have had more media coverage than any other family.


Pogo
Sarno hiring bikers to "bomb" a legitimate poker machine company and Panozzo with his small crew of government informants "robbing" a drug stash house set up by the F.B.I. are about as brazen as you can get. Nothing secretive about it. The Feds knew every move in advance.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Frank » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 am

Moscone65 wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am Let’s agree to disagree then
I'm kinda in the middle, but knowing that it has slowed down,and could be alot different than it used to be. If they have made guys fairly recently, do they still have a ceremony or does their Capo just say I put in for your membership and the bosses approved it. But what's certain time will tell and it will tell in the not so distant future. Your right in the fact LE has them as a viable family.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Moscone65 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am

Let’s agree to disagree then

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:22 am

And Chicago is hardly a secretive group. They are one of the most brazen and in your face families of all time. They wer constantly in the news and have had more media coverage than any other family.


Pogo

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Confederate » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:18 pm

Moscone65 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:09 pm Tbh we don’t know who could be made at this point because there hasn’t been an in the know informant since family secrets almost 15 years ago. That’s a long time, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were atleast 2-3 making ceremonies with a few guys each since then. In general we don’t know much about Chicago. Very secretive compared to New York and especially the gavones in philly.
The Family Secrets Trial ended 12 years ago. I would be very surprised if they made anybody. The pattern of the higher level smart guys in the Outfit was to back away and let it die a slow death. There has been no reason to see that has changed in any way no matter how much some people wish it would change. You don't hear much about Chicago because very little is happening. There is no other reason.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Moscone65 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:09 pm

Tbh we don’t know who could be made at this point because there hasn’t been an in the know informant since family secrets almost 15 years ago. That’s a long time, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were atleast 2-3 making ceremonies with a few guys each since then. In general we don’t know much about Chicago. Very secretive compared to New York and especially the gavones in philly.

Re: Outfit Associate dies before sentencing

by Snakes » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Jeff wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:37 pm
Frank wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:14 pm Nothing really will change, until we find out if they have been making new members. Isn't Magnifichi the only confirmed member under 60 years old, and he is on the shelf.
Is Nicholas Ferriola still active? I haven't heard his name since he was sentenced in the Family Secrets trial.
Not sure, I don't believe he was ever made. Definitely not at the time of Family Secrets.

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