THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Antiliar wrote:He believed another man was his biological father but later found out that Sonny was his biological father all the time. Can't give more specifics because my copies of his books are in storage.

B. wrote:I'd love to go to one of Franzese's motivational speaking gigs and just pester him with questions about making ceremonies, history of various members, etc. "I'm here as a representative of the Black Hand Forum and I demand answers."

Chris Christie wrote:

B. wrote:I have seen interviewers refer to him as a mob boss to his face and he doesn't correct them, just nods his head when they ask those Pulitzer-winning questions in a phony incredulous tone like, "So as a mob boss, you're saying you had no problem ordering a murder or beating?" To which he looks down, smirks and gives some explanation about "the life".

I have to give him credit, though... he's really made the whole ex-mobster schtick work for him and he seems to get some of the better gigs when you compare him to some of the other desperate rat feebs who have tried to hit the circuit. I have no doubt that he was one of the more financially successful guys on the streets in his heyday, though I do question the weekly income he claims to have been making during the gas scam.

As for him referring to things in the present tense -- didn't both of the Bonannos do that as well?

Yeah, but they didn't write about "Quitting" the mob, by quitting I mean renouncing "the life" and turning to an order of humility and service to man.

B. wrote:I have seen interviewers refer to him as a mob boss to his face and he doesn't correct them, just nods his head when they ask those Pulitzer-winning questions in a phony incredulous tone like, "So as a mob boss, you're saying you had no problem ordering a murder or beating?" To which he looks down, smirks and gives some explanation about "the life".

I have to give him credit, though... he's really made the whole ex-mobster schtick work for him and he seems to get some of the better gigs when you compare him to some of the other desperate rat feebs who have tried to hit the circuit. I have no doubt that he was one of the more financially successful guys on the streets in his heyday, though I do question the weekly income he claims to have been making during the gas scam.

As for him referring to things in the present tense -- didn't both of the Bonannos do that as well?

Pete wrote:

Chris Christie wrote:MF is another one who's story has snowballed. What started out as Acting Capo for his father has snowballed into some Colombo plan for succession involving his grooming to be Allie Boy's Underboss... When he gives his college lectures, he refers to things in present tense: "On our life" and "we have a thing for that." He argues against illegal gambling, but he sure loves to dress the part, throw in an occasional forgetaboutit as a punchline to spark laughter. The only thing that separates him from Fratto is that he was successful. (Anyone ever see Son of a Gun? http://www.jfsc.tv/promo/)

MF may have found religion, but he sure continues to profit off the mob and his background which he has banked into a semi-affluent lifestyle just as Jesus surely intended.

Where did you hear this about being groomed to be allies ub?

Chris Christie wrote:MF is another one who's story has snowballed. What started out as Acting Capo for his father has snowballed into some Colombo plan for succession involving his grooming to be Allie Boy's Underboss... When he gives his college lectures, he refers to things in present tense: "On our life" and "we have a thing for that." He argues against illegal gambling, but he sure loves to dress the part, throw in an occasional forgetaboutit as a punchline to spark laughter. The only thing that separates him from Fratto is that he was successful. (Anyone ever see Son of a Gun? http://www.jfsc.tv/promo/)

MF may have found religion, but he sure continues to profit off the mob and his background which he has banked into a semi-affluent lifestyle just as Jesus surely intended.

Antiliar wrote:

Pete wrote:All these fans and I'm the only one that's read one of his books? Cmon someone must have read blood covenant

I read it.

Pete wrote:All these fans and I'm the only one that's read one of his books? Cmon someone must have read blood covenant

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Pete wrote:

Allie Boy wrote:

Wiseguy wrote:I'm probably in the minority but his "finding religion" strikes me as genuine. His wife seems to have had a huge influence on him and his decision to leave the life.

I think you are right on the money. He's probably genuine when it comes to his faith. It's not that crazy for mob guys to be religious. His old friend Bill Cutolo was very religious as well.

What gets me about Franzese isn't his faith or the fact that he quit the life, but that he's still in contact with some of his old friends. Didn't this guy rat them out? I don't get it.

I thought he didn't testify against any colombos?

He never took the stand against anyone as far as I know. But its been said that he did give info on people. Who I don't know. Could be Russians involved in the gas rackets..

He testified against Norby Walters, a close family friend. How harmful his testimony was is debatable, but he he still did what he did. It is true that he served a lot of years in federal prison and was even in Lompoc with Junior for a while. I don't know what kind of deal he has with them these days, but they don't appear to be angry at him anymore. My guess is he still helps them whenever he can. It's probably a little difficult for the Persicos to remain angry at him, especially since Junior himself admitted in open court there was a mafia. That was like his opening statement lol. The Colombos may have been more angry at Franzese for leaving than anything else. They would've made this guy boss if he hadn't left. Fucking guy was a captain at 28.