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by **eboli** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:28 pm

Philly's history is indeed impressive. It's a miracle they are still around these days. From the 50+ active members they had in 1986 by 1990-1991 they had roughly 20 people on the street and that's before Stanfa took over and all the chaos that followed.

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:16 pm

Yeah in the Fall of 1986 their membership was 69-71 made with the active membership in the 40s or low 50s range.

Pogo

by **Lupara** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:Yeah I think we are saying essentially the same thing. They are talking about the membership numbers not that the family itself is back to their 80s strength.

Pogo

They said 80s strenght but I also think they were referring to the numbers. It's obvious the family isn't as powerful as they were under Scarfo.

But this would mean their membership would be about 50. In the 80s it was a little higher was it not?

by **Amershire_Ed** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:29 pm

On an episode of Mob Talk Sitdown that aired about 6-7 months ago after Merlino was sentenced, they were talking about what it meant for Philly. They talked about Lancelotti being the street boss, and Schratweiser said, “he’s running the day to day operations on the street, even though there’s not a lot of operations to run”. And Anastasia pretty much agreed but said it’s hard to tell for sure.

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:17 pm

Yeah I think we are saying essentially the same thing. They are talking about the membership numbers not that the family itself is back to their 80s strength.

Pogo

by **Lupara** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:40 am

Pogo The Clown wrote:I believe they said they haven't had as many members on the street since the 80s. Not necessarily that they are back to their 80s strength. They have recently said that there isn't much going on and not much left to run like Evoli said up top.

Pogo

They said specifically in one of their videos that they were back at 80s strenght in terms of numbers.

by **Mason_dixon** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:26 am

I do listen to that Jeff Canarsie even tho he is kind of a joke. But the amount of dick riding he does about philly is unreal. I mean this guy would suck Joey off if Joey would let him. Mind blowing how obsessed this guy is with “south Philly” and what a “powerhouse” they are lol

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:02 am

I believe they said they haven't had as many members on the street since the 80s. Not necessarily that they are back to their 80s strength. They have recently said that there isn't much going on and not much left to run like Evoli said up top.

Pogo

by **Lupara** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:55 am

Amershire_Ed wrote:
Fughedaboutit wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:15 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:07 pm There’s a lot of talk about which cities still have activity outside of NYC, and Philly often comes up. I know it’s said Philly is really just a handful of guys running different books or whatever, and all the traditional rackets have dried up....if the Feds are really just trying to tie up loose ends on 15-20 year old murders, it seems that opinion is not far off.
What are you even talking about? Everyone knows Philly is pretty active
The general consensus on Philly seems to be its mainly a handful of made guys running a few different books, maybe a couple other things here and there. I didn’t think that was even up for debate?

I thought the general consensus is that everyone is out of jail and back on the streets. Anastasia and Schratwieser said they were back at 80s strenght a few years ago.

by **JCB1977** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:40 am

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:07 pm There’s a lot of talk about which cities still have activity outside of NYC, and Philly often comes up. I know it’s said Philly is really just a handful of guys running different books or whatever, and all the traditional rackets have dried up....if the Feds are really just trying to tie up loose ends on 15-20 year old murders, it seems that opinion is not far off.

While Philly is still active in some rackets, they have lost the bulk of their income through Labor Racketeering and Union Infiltration in AC and the surrounding areas. The family's tentacles has lost much of their reach and power outside of South Philly, NY took over their operations in NJ and they are one informant away from being devastated. Somebody is going to flip, it's a matter of time and it will be somebody giving info on murder(s).

by **NJShore4Life** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:37 am

Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:00 am
Tony Monte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:51 pm Dave S. is saying a philly wiseguy and former philly mob associate were visited by FBI about a past murder. Tried to convince them to cooperate
Where did he report this ?

Instagram also said a new mob talk will be out early this week.

by **Bklyn21** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:00 am

Tony Monte wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:51 pm Dave S. is saying a philly wiseguy and former philly mob associate were visited by FBI about a past murder. Tried to convince them to cooperate

Where did he report this ?

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:29 am

That was more like a few years apart. Guys can be active until they are not. I have no idea what his status is now but I don't think GA just made it up the few times he mentioned it. There has to be something to it for him to have said so many times.

Pogo

by **TommyGambino** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:52 am

Anastasia went from saying Borgesi was super active to a few months later fully legit lol, basically because he flipped a few houses.

by **eboli** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:14 am

It's just Dave and George's opinion in one of the recent Mob Talks based on what they've been hearing. I think it was the one in which they talk about Lance's promotion and how things are slowing down, and there might not be a lot left to be a boss of in South Philly.

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