THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Confederate wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:58 pm Most younger people don't know or care about the LCN. They're more aware of Drug Cartels from Mexico or street level "ghetto gangstas" standing on the corner selling drugs or some "gangsta rapper" they see on television. To them, Organized Crime is all related to the drug culture IMO.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:49 pm The vast majority of the public doesn't follow the mob beyond reading the ocassional article, if not just the headline. Their frame of reference for the mob is Al Capone, maybe John Gotti, movies like The Godfather or Goodfellas, and The Sopranos. Their image of "The Mafia" is guys in suits and fedoras with Tommy guns.
They had never heard of Frank Cali before he was shot. They couldn't pick Barney Bellomo out of a three man lineup unless the other two were Eddie Murphy and Carrot Top.

Defense lawyers will say whatever they need to in order to get a client off the hook. Documentaries talking about the mob "being dead" or books entitled "The Last (fill in the blank)" do it for dramatic purposes.

When some more in the know say the mob is dead, it seems they mean in the sense of what it once was, i.e a more secretive, disciplined, Omerta-following, tight knit criminal organization at the height of its power.

The Mob is dead in most places. To say it's "still pretty active in the US" is somewhat misleading. It's still pretty active in the extended New York metropolitan area. And there is still some activity in a handful of other areas. But that's about it.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:22 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:15 pmThe mob busts we follow here are similar. Where they differ is the scope of the links I put up like Mexicans and groups in China working together, or the ones where they have operations across several states. Why do you skip those? AS for the Chinese selling drugs, it is big, they are working with Mexican groups, who are overwhelmingly bigger in the US than anyone.

But we're not talking about other states, are we? At least we weren't when this disagreement started. We're talking about the extended New York metropolitan area. But you then had to go and confuse the issue as a way to weasel your way out of an argument you knew you had already lost.

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:15 pmThe mob busts we follow here are similar. Where they differ is the scope of the links I put up like Mexicans and groups in China working together, or the ones where they have operations across several states. Why do you skip those? AS for the Chinese selling drugs, it is big, they are working with Mexican groups, who are overwhelmingly bigger in the US than anyone.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:38 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pmIsaid that if I gave a ton of links you would say they were meaningless, and as I predicted you have. You either want em to waste time looking for more and putting them up so you can repeat the process . You're a dork with nothing else to do.

Still waiting for you to post one single solitary link that actually has to do with what we're talking about. You keep posting stuff that's beside the point and then act like you've proven your case. Several posters have told you this. But you're just off in your own little world.

I realize you're a lost cause at this point. In the future, just don't talk out of your ass, bert. Then there will be no problem.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:44 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:39 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:38 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pmIsaid that if I gave a ton of links you would say they were meaningless, and as I predicted you have. You either want em to waste time looking for more and putting them up so you can repeat the process . You're a dork with nothing else to do.

Still waiting for you to post one single solitary link that actually has to do with what we're talking about. You keep posting stuff that's beside the point and then act like you've proven your case. Several posters have told you this. But you're just off in your own little world.

I realize you're a lost cause at this point. In the future, just don't talk out of your ass, bert. Then there will be no problem.

You can't admit I nailed you with all that info.

Especially the link about a drugs & card game bust from a small Chinese gang that operated in a predominantly Chinese area in Brooklyn. What especially proved Wiseguy wrong was the fact that these Chinese criminals were selling, of all things, drugs! The mafia is certainly doomed now. And don’t get me started on their poker game that they operated out of ONE apartment. How can the Mafia compete with such criminal prowess???

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:39 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:38 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pmIsaid that if I gave a ton of links you would say they were meaningless, and as I predicted you have. You either want em to waste time looking for more and putting them up so you can repeat the process . You're a dork with nothing else to do.

Still waiting for you to post one single solitary link that actually has to do with what we're talking about. You keep posting stuff that's beside the point and then act like you've proven your case. Several posters have told you this. But you're just off in your own little world.

I realize you're a lost cause at this point. In the future, just don't talk out of your ass, bert. Then there will be no problem.

You can't admit I nailed you with all that info.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:38 pm

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pmIsaid that if I gave a ton of links you would say they were meaningless, and as I predicted you have. You either want em to waste time looking for more and putting them up so you can repeat the process . You're a dork with nothing else to do.

Still waiting for you to post one single solitary link that actually has to do with what we're talking about. You keep posting stuff that's beside the point and then act like you've proven your case. Several posters have told you this. But you're just off in your own little world.

I realize you're a lost cause at this point. In the future, just don't talk out of your ass, bert. Then there will be no problem.

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pmIsaid that if I gave a ton of links you would say they were meaningless, and as I predicted you have. You either want em to waste time looking for more and putting them up so you can repeat the process . You're a dork with nothing else to do.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:54 am

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:05 am I see I was right about you, thanks for clearing it up and removing any doubt.

What is that, at least the fifth time you've avoided the subject? Too busy posting links to irrelevant articles, I guess.

You ask bert a question or for evidence to support his claims and this is what you get...

https://youtu.be/K8E_zMLCRNg

Rat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:01 pm

Burt claiming wiseguy is fanboy/doesn't listen to evidence when Wiseguy has a mountains of FBI quotes and articles, Burt claiming Wiseguy is wrong off of articles from 1988 that barely adress his claims

bert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:05 am I see I was right about you, thanks for clearing it up and removing any doubt.