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How the feds/prosecutors playing fast and loose with the rules bc he's italian and allegedly in the mob is total over reach imo
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What a rat frame job. Every guy who gets in the federal system knows how the game is played. You get a break IF the feds make a case against someone else. In order to get them to bring a case, you either help them on a case they have open against someone up the food chain or you help them open a case against someone more desirable than you. Think that isn't the world's biggest incentive to frame somebody? Think guys aren't getting set up every single day for someone to make up a story to get catch themselves a break? It isn't justice, it's a perversion of justice. In OC it's been happening since Barboza and probably before but it happens in cases all day everywhere. Everybody in the justice department turns a blind eye.
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dack2001 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:10 am What a rat frame job. Every guy who gets in the federal system knows how the game is played. You get a break IF the feds make a case against someone else. In order to get them to bring a case, you either help them on a case they have open against someone up the food chain or you help them open a case against someone more desirable than you. Think that isn't the world's biggest incentive to frame somebody? Think guys aren't getting set up every single day for someone to make up a story to get catch themselves a break? It isn't justice, it's a perversion of justice. In OC it's been happening since Barboza and probably before but it happens in cases all day everywhere. Everybody in the justice department turns a blind eye.
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The guy fingers someone else for the murder, what two, three decades after the murder and now it can be held against them in an unrelated case.
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Thanks for the post. 👍🏻
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:19 pm
Thanks for the post. 👍🏻
I'm not that good researching, but I like newspaper-specifically wall street journal, financial times, and local papers. If I find something of interest I post it.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:19 pm
Thanks for the post. 👍🏻
I'm not that good researching, but I like newspaper-specifically wall street journal, financial times, and local papers. If I find something of interest I post it.
Was a good find, the board was speculating about what transpired there. Good to know. Thanks again.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:00 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:19 pm
Thanks for the post. 👍🏻
I'm not that good researching, but I like newspaper-specifically wall street journal, financial times, and local papers. If I find something of interest I post it.
Was a good find, the board was speculating about what transpired there. Good to know. Thanks again.
Do you know what crew he was in, when he was made, etc...seems like a good money maker, low key guy, not many pinches. It says in the article he ran a "20" year book making operation. I mean that's fucking un heard of, 20 yrs unimpeded...
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Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:20 pm Do you know what crew he was in, when he was made, etc...seems like a good money maker, low key guy, not many pinches. It says in the article he ran a "20" year book making operation. I mean that's fucking un heard of, 20 yrs unimpeded...
Throw this to the board. What do we know of Johnny T?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:45 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:20 pm Do you know what crew he was in, when he was made, etc...seems like a good money maker, low key guy, not many pinches. It says in the article he ran a "20" year book making operation. I mean that's fucking un heard of, 20 yrs unimpeded...
Throw this to the board. What do we know of Johnny T?
I never heard of the guy until his murder beef / gangland articles started coming out. i bet most of us here are in the same boat.

this could be another example of the genovese doing what they do; whenever I read that they have the largest amount of made members, its random guys like this that answer the “yeah, but who the fuck are all these members, anyway?” question I always ask.

For the Genovese especially, i feel like all topics of recent/current convo center around the same maybe... two dozen guys, at most. We know who the capos, rotating bosses, higher profile guys have been through indictments, unions, or big banner legit businesses, so its cool to find out about random workaday soldiers like this.

hes a Yonkers guy. I wonder if he’d be in Pagano’s ‘Hudson Valley’ crew, or in one of the Bronx crews? Also wonder how much of a Genovese presence there actually is in Yonkers, or if this Johnny T is just THE Yonkers guy
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:45 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:20 pm Do you know what crew he was in, when he was made, etc...seems like a good money maker, low key guy, not many pinches. It says in the article he ran a "20" year book making operation. I mean that's fucking un heard of, 20 yrs unimpeded...
Throw this to the board. What do we know of Johnny T?
I will.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:45 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:20 pm Do you know what crew he was in, when he was made, etc...seems like a good money maker, low key guy, not many pinches. It says in the article he ran a "20" year book making operation. I mean that's fucking un heard of, 20 yrs unimpeded...
Throw this to the board. What do we know of Johnny T?
Allright i said i was going to do it and i did it..get some senior members to read what I posted and critique it.. I may and try and do something similar in the future as way of contributing... if it's satisfactory
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