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Did he really put a green light on his own son, Nick Cirillo, over a beating he gave to one of Vinny Gorgeous’ kids?
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From Massino's testimony.
Q You then replied, "Let me ask you another question, do we have anything to do with that?" What were you're referring to when you asked, "Do we have anything to do with that"?
A I made a motion, Quiet Dom's kid got killed. I said, "Do we have anything to do with that," and he said, "No."
Q And just to be clear for the record, the motion that you made?
A Was murders, Quiet Dom's son got murdered.
Q Approximately when was Quiet Dom's son murdered?
A Maybe 2003.
Q And Basciano replied, "Absolutely not. Come on," and line 12. Then line 17 to 19, Basciano continued, "No, there was a beef with the kid. There was a physical beef with the kid, but it was a physical beef." What did you understand Basciano was referring to when he said there was a beef with the kid, which kid was there a beef with?
A Vinny Basciano's older son, Vinny, Jr., had a beef with Quiet Dom's son.
Q And then continuing on, line 22 to 23, Basciano replied that, "They came back to me and apologized. They apologized to me." What did you understand him to mean by that?
A That the Genovese Family, Quiet Dom's people came back and apologized to Vinny Basciano.
Q In regards to what?
A The fight that his son had with Quiet Dom's son.
Q And then continuing on line 26, Basciano continued, "That came from Dom. That came from Dom." What did you understand him to mean by that?
A I understand that he's telling me Quiet Dom killed his son.
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JohnnyS wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:08 pm From Massino's testimony.
Q You then replied, "Let me ask you another question, do we have anything to do with that?" What were you're referring to when you asked, "Do we have anything to do with that"?
A I made a motion, Quiet Dom's kid got killed. I said, "Do we have anything to do with that," and he said, "No."
Q And just to be clear for the record, the motion that you made?
A Was murders, Quiet Dom's son got murdered.
Q Approximately when was Quiet Dom's son murdered?
A Maybe 2003.
Q And Basciano replied, "Absolutely not. Come on," and line 12. Then line 17 to 19, Basciano continued, "No, there was a beef with the kid. There was a physical beef with the kid, but it was a physical beef." What did you understand Basciano was referring to when he said there was a beef with the kid, which kid was there a beef with?
A Vinny Basciano's older son, Vinny, Jr., had a beef with Quiet Dom's son.
Q And then continuing on, line 22 to 23, Basciano replied that, "They came back to me and apologized. They apologized to me." What did you understand him to mean by that?
A That the Genovese Family, Quiet Dom's people came back and apologized to Vinny Basciano.
Q In regards to what?
A The fight that his son had with Quiet Dom's son.
Q And then continuing on line 26, Basciano continued, "That came from Dom. That came from Dom." What did you understand him to mean by that?
A I understand that he's telling me Quiet Dom killed his son.
Damn that’s crazy, Quiet Dom really did put The Life over his son & personal life.
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There was no fight between Basciano Jr and Cirillo's son. A breakdown of what went down from Dom Cicale's debriefings originally posted by JD/LCNbios.

Around Spring 2004 Dominick Cicale was having renovations done on his real estate office. Cirillo showed up at the office to discuss money owed for the work and Cicale told him to mind his business. Cirillo raised his voice and Cicale slapped him. Cirillo then started toward his vehicle and made a comment about getting a gun. Cicale followed him, held him against the car and started beating him so he couldn't get at any weapons. There was a guy with Cirillo who was still inside the vehicle. He told Cicale there wasn't really a gun inside so he backed off. Both parties left the scene. Almost immediately after they were gone Vincent Basciano Jr. showed up and was questioned by the NYPD who been called to the location and had also just arrived. Cirillo did not hit or threaten Basciano Jr., they weren't there at the same time.

A few hours later Cicale was summoned to meet with Vincent Basciano, Michael Mancuso and an unspecified Genovese member. It was decided since Cirillo didn't actually put his hands on Cicale there was no issue and to let it end there. The Genovese member made a call and Cirillo showed up and apologized to Cicale for his behavior. They shook hands and that was it.

Cirillo was last seen May 9, 2004. Shortly thereafter Cicale met with Basciano and Mancuso. During this meeting Basciano expressed his opinion that the Genovese were taking advantage of the recent situation between Cicale/Cirillo to get rid of Cirillo and have the blame pointed elsewhere. Basciano told Mancuso to meet with one of the Genovese leaders (poss. Lawrence Dentico) and inform them the Bonannos had nothing to do with it. Mancuso and the Genovese met and they told Mancuso they already knew the Bonannos weren't responsible and no further action was taken.

After Cicale was indicted he spent time with Dominick Cirillo at MDC Brooklyn, and Cirillo also told him he knew Cicale had nothing to do with killing his son.
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That is some cold shit
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Wasnt doms kid an addict too
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AntComello wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:11 pm Wasnt doms kid an addict too
Tf is up with these mobster born 70s and younger most of them are crackheads
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I believe it was reported that Dom's son was an addict and an embarrasement to his father. Very cold blooded. I wonder who within the Genovese family is suspected of actually participating in Cirillo's murder.
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The son probaly was born in 50tys. I found out watching that Jimmy Breslin HBO doc quiet doms daughter was his secretary at the ny daily news forever or one of the papers. She must have had a easy job.
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AM434 wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:45 pm I believe it was reported that Dom's son was an addict and an embarrasement to his father. Very cold blooded. I wonder who within the Genovese family is suspected of actually participating in Cirillo's murder.
Makes sense since he was in his 50s & his guys was one of the top guys that have been around since Chin Galante was coming up. And his son was in his 50s & couldn’t get made? Really tells you that you can be Lucky Luciano’s son, that wouldn’t give you an easy way in like it is with the Colombo’s, and Gambinos to name a few.
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Shellackhead wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:29 pm
AM434 wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:45 pm I believe it was reported that Dom's son was an addict and an embarrasement to his father. Very cold blooded. I wonder who within the Genovese family is suspected of actually participating in Cirillo's murder.
Makes sense since he was in his 40s & his dad was one of the top guys that have been around since Chin Galante was coming up. And his son was in his 40s & couldn’t get made? Really tells you that you can be Lucky Luciano’s son, that wouldn’t give you an easy way in like it is with the Colombo’s, and Gambinos to name a few.
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As I've pointed out whenever this topic comes up, these guys take an oath to put LCN and it's rules before everything, including their own families. Cirillo was holding true to that, as unthinkable as it is.
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Wiseguy wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:09 pm As I've pointed out whenever this topic comes up, these guys take an oath to put LCN and it's rules before everything, including their own families. Cirillo was holding true to that, as unthinkable as it is.
Very true. Cirillo is an old-timer and a true believer in LCN.
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Wiseguy wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:09 pm As I've pointed out whenever this topic comes up, these guys take an oath to put LCN and it's rules before everything, including their own families. Cirillo was holding true to that, as unthinkable as it is.
as you know there are other informants that have said it wasnt Dom that it was Vinny and Dom on the sneak. Long argument so I wont get all into it but there was others that placed the blame on vinny/dom
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Did Dominick Cicale ever name the who was responsible for directly whacking Nick Cirillo?
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