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Captains as shooters in the hit

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I'm sure that throughout the history of the mob there have been countless times that captains or even members of the administration have been on the scene of a murder. But how many examples do we know of where the higher-ups got their hands dirty with the actual shooting/stabbing/strangling? Here's some that I can think of:

John Gotti was an acting captain when he and Watts allegedly were the shooters in the Vito Borelli murder.

Patty DeFillipo I believe was the actual shooter in the Sciascia hit and had been a captain for years at that point.

Nino Gaggi was a captain when he blasted whichever Eppolito he did, although that may not have been the initial plan for him to be a shooter. I can't remember for sure if he had already been bumped up to capo when he and Roy shot that guy in the street, the former boxer who had broke Gaggi's nose years earlier. The murder happened in June 1976 and Gambino didn't die until October if that has any bearing on when Gaggi became captain of Paul's old crew. For what it's worth Gaggi was named as the shooter in the DeMeo hit in Murder Machine but I'm not sure where they got that from.

Sciascia himself was a captain when he put a bullet in Sonny Red's skull although we know for sure that wasn't the initial plan as he had picked up a gun that someone dropped and finished the job.

Al D'Arco was I believe the captain of the old Vario crew when he tried to bash Pappadio's brains in with some kind of club. I know that it didn't work and it took a few bullets from another guy to finish the job but I'll give Al credit for the attempt.

Are there any others that you guys know of? Maybe it happened more frequently in some of the smaller families. What about Chicago? I think that for the purposes of the ruse the bosses were on the scene when the Spilotros got stomped, did any of them get any licks in?
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Bobby Bisaccia murdered Francesco Oliveri. A hit for Gotti in 1988. I believe Bobby was a captain by then.
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Frank Martines was the Acting UnderBoss when he shoot John Veasey in the head. He and Capo Al Pagano struggled with him and I think tried to stab him when Veasey survived and tried to get away. I believe Capo Salvy Testa took part in the actual murder of the guy who assembled the bomb that killed his dad. Steve Mazzone and George Borgesi may have been involved in the physical murder of Ronnie Truchi when they were serving in the administration.


There have been a few examples of Outfits higher up physically taking parts in murders. I believe a few did the killing of the Spilotro brothers.


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If you subscribe to the theory that Caponigro was the shooter in the Bruno hit, I believe he was up there in the hierarchy.
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Good thread 👌🏻. Interesting.

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I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
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cavita wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
Up until the 80s their control over the police and judicial system was such that they had little reason to insulate themselves from participating in heavy work and many Chicago capos/bosses were sadistic bastards who enjoyed killing. The Action Jackson torture-murder is a notoriously gruesome example, and of course the feds later recorded Cerone, Buccieri, Torello reminiscing and joking about it in Miami.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 pm
cavita wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
Up until the 80s their control over the police and judicial system was such that they had little reason to insulate themselves from participating in heavy work and many Chicago capos/bosses were sadistic bastards who enjoyed killing. The Action Jackson torture-murder is a notoriously gruesome example, and of course the feds later recorded Cerone, Buccieri, Torello reminiscing and joking about it in Miami.
Also in terms of public "whacking" type hits, Lombardo participated in the hits on Danny Seifert and Richard Cain (the latter not confirmed but presumed) while Westside capo.
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PolackTony wrote:
PolackTony wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 pm
cavita wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
Up until the 80s their control over the police and judicial system was such that they had little reason to insulate themselves from participating in heavy work and many Chicago capos/bosses were sadistic bastards who enjoyed killing. The Action Jackson torture-murder is a notoriously gruesome example, and of course the feds later recorded Cerone, Buccieri, Torello reminiscing and joking about it in Miami.
Also in terms of public "whacking" type hits, Lombardo participated in the hits on Danny Seifert and Richard Cain (the latter not confirmed but presumed) while Westside capo.
Hello, I know this isn't relevant to the subject but I'm new about researching about the mob could you tell me a few places to look online where I can find some rare mob pics?

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Sonnyfranzese wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:02 pm
PolackTony wrote:
PolackTony wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 pm
cavita wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
Up until the 80s their control over the police and judicial system was such that they had little reason to insulate themselves from participating in heavy work and many Chicago capos/bosses were sadistic bastards who enjoyed killing. The Action Jackson torture-murder is a notoriously gruesome example, and of course the feds later recorded Cerone, Buccieri, Torello reminiscing and joking about it in Miami.
Also in terms of public "whacking" type hits, Lombardo participated in the hits on Danny Seifert and Richard Cain (the latter not confirmed but presumed) while Westside capo.
Hello, I know this isn't relevant to the subject but I'm new about researching about the mob could you tell me a few places to look online where I can find some rare mob pics?

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JeremyTheJew wrote:
Sonnyfranzese wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:02 pm
PolackTony wrote:
PolackTony wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 pm
cavita wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:48 pm I don't have the time nor the knowledge but I do know that the Chicago Outfit Capo's made a habit of this.
Up until the 80s their control over the police and judicial system was such that they had little reason to insulate themselves from participating in heavy work and many Chicago capos/bosses were sadistic bastards who enjoyed killing. The Action Jackson torture-murder is a notoriously gruesome example, and of course the feds later recorded Cerone, Buccieri, Torello reminiscing and joking about it in Miami.
Also in terms of public "whacking" type hits, Lombardo participated in the hits on Danny Seifert and Richard Cain (the latter not confirmed but presumed) while Westside capo.
Hello, I know this isn't relevant to the subject but I'm new about researching about the mob could you tell me a few places to look online where I can find some rare mob pics?

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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:34 pm Frank Martines was the Acting UnderBoss when he shoot John Veasey in the head. He and Capo Al Pagano struggled with him and I think tried to stab him when Veasey survived and tried to get away. I believe Capo Salvy Testa took part in the actual murder of the guy who assembled the bomb that killed his dad. Steve Mazzone and George Borgesi may have been involved in the physical murder of Ronnie Truchi when they were serving in the administration.


There have been a few examples of Outfits higher up physically taking parts in murders. I believe a few did the killing of the Spilotro brothers.


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I believe Frank Bompensiero was a Capo when he and Jimmy Frattiano strangled Frank Borgia.


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Massino was involved in three Capo's murder. Don't remember if he shot anyone, but think I read he punched one of them.
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Lefty_Ruggiero wrote:Massino was involved in three Capo's murder. Don't remember if he shot anyone, but think I read he punched one of them.
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