Use Sammy Gravano in other cases

[NYNighthawk]

If the Court allows Sammy to testify on LoCascio's behalf than the gates have to open for other court cases. Sammy made a deal when he turned - 20 years prison time an I don't testify against anyone in my crew. He had 5 people in his crew - 2 are dead - 2 flipped and only Paul Vallario is still active. But I would urge some young Asst. US Atty. who wants to make his or her bones to take a chance as result of this Locascio moment and reopen the other murders Sammy mentions like Carneglia shooting someone in his club and how DB was whacked. joe Paruta is dead but there were others there to cleanup and dispose of the bodies and correct me if I am wrong - LoCascio did one of those disposals.

[mafiastudent]

I was just about to post something in that Locascio thread about this same issue....

The government is NOW questioning Gravano's credibility. So if he "lacks credibility" now what does that mean back then? Wouldn't that make any of his testimony invalid if that's the government's argument. The below is from government's motion:

“Locascio’s Brady argument is fatally undermined by Gravano’s lack of credibility”

[mafiastudent]

They're also arguing that the FBI agent that testified at the trial was more credible in his interpretation of that December 12 recording than Gotti or Gravano himself...lololol

[mafiastudent]

This too...from Locascio:

"Gravano states plainly that he told the government everything he knew. Gravano Decl. ¶ 3. The Court must hold an evidentiary hearing at which all parties can learn when and to whom Gravano provided the information in the declaration. It is impossible to determine credibility without eliciting all of the facts. To the extent the government argues that the lateness of Gravano’s declaration alone is grounds to find it so incredible as to deny a hearing, see Opp. 49, that contention is insupportable and would set a dangerous precedent. Gravano explains that he was instructed to answer only what was asked of him at trial."

[mafiastudent]

I didn't post the last part:

"Gravano Decl. ¶¶ 6, 9. He was not asked questions about LoCascio’s role in the DiBono murder at trial. The assertions in Gravano’s declaration do not contradict Gravano’s trial testimony or that of any other witness. There is nothing in the content of the declaration that is incredible or inconsistent. The lateness of the declaration alone is not a basis for denying a hearing."

[mafiastudent]

The record consists of testimony by an FBI agent as to his interpretation of the December 12 conversation – a conversation Gravano is in a superior position to interpret and the text of which is utterly ambiguous (“he’s gonna bring you fifty” and “he’s buying lunch”). Gravano’s testimony would be highly persuasive to jurors on the question of whether LoCascio’s December 12 statements establish an intent to commit murder. Gotti’s statement “correct me if I’m wrong, Frankie” – on which the government’s “role of an underboss” argument relied – is neutralized by Gravano’s testimony about the role and requirements of an underboss. Gravano was an acting underboss. His testimony would have carried more weight than the agent’s theorizing about the role of an underboss. The record is silent about the conversation between Gotti and Gravano described in paragraph 8 of Gravano’s declaration. The record is also silent as to whether exculpatory information was conveyed to any agent of the government. In sum, nothing in the trial record casts doubt on Gravano’s key assertions. Cf. Opp. 50 (arguing that Gravano’s testimony would be “unlikely to [] Case 1:90-cr-01051-ILG Document 448 Filed 05/21/20 Page 26 of 30 PageID #: 1409 22 trouble[] many jurors in light of evidence in the trial record that casts considerable
doubt on Gravano’s key assertions”); id. at 57.

[mafiastudent]

In the government’s lengthy recitation of reasons why the Court should summarily deny this motion without a hearing, Opp. 56, the government notably omits any reference to the conversation between Gotti and Gravano discussed in Paragraph 8 of Gravano’s declaration. The government argues that the Court should deny a hearing by resolving any credibility dispute between Gravano and Gleeson summarily in the government’s favor. Opp. 57. Yet that result would be improper under Machibroda, 368 U.S. at 495-96. Moreover, Gravano’s declaration does not necessarily conflict with Gleeson’s because Gravano does not state that he provided the exculpatory information to Gleeson. Under these circumstances, the Court must hold an evidentiary hearing and hear from Gravano. Cf. LoCascio v. United States, 395 F.3d 51, 57-58 (2d Cir. 2005) (“why Cardinale did or did not do certain things cannot be determined without hearing his live testimony under oath”).

[JeremyTheJew]

I mean...
Didn't him getting convicted of the giant xtc ring show his credibility level??
I think they all know they fucked up but what they gained as a statement and showed anyone and any position will flip is what the gov was tryna gain...
It's unfair
Whatever.
Uk....
Jews were genocide 6 million in 1940s and only what, it think 12 (???) Ppl were in Nuremberg??
I think u should turn the injustice a little bit around and maybe fight for that like.... Non criminals that get charged in criminal cases....

[mafiastudent]

Locascio also apparently filed an emergency motion for compassionate release tho I don't see it on Pacer only judge's order for the government to respond by June 4.

[bert]

If he testifies in more cases for the defense the FBI or justice department will warn him (If they already haven't) about pissing them off. If they don't warn him he may do it more, I doubt it though. I don't see him doing it. If he does, they will go after him and pin something to him. I can see him being truthful about Locascio, but he should stop there. He's cunning, but his ego may make him careless. He was careless when he went with Gotti and stayed with him right up till he faced prison. His ego got to him in Arizona, along with the feds ignoring anything he did wrong. He got busted by the state and that ended it there for him. He is reckless, letting his daughter do not one but two mob shows, with the grandkids featured in the second one is really out there.

[dack2001]

Warn him? I'm sure he feels he served 20 years in prison and no one lifted a finger to help him. I doubt he cares about any fed warning.

[bert]

Warn him? I'm sure he feels he served 20 years in prison and no one lifted a finger to help him. I doubt he cares about any fed warning.

They tried to help him in Arizona but were fought by the state which went after him. If he starts going against them in cases, they will put him away again. They can say they found he lied when he made his deal, or get someone to say he left out a murder back then in his plea bargain. He knows what the feds can and will do.

[NYNighthawk]

There were FBI agents flying in and out of Arizona to get Sammy to autograph everything and anything before he was busted for the pills. Then they dropped him like a hot potato. I would still love to know how Locsacio's attorneys reached him in if he is in an undisclosed location. In any event, this might turn out to be his rising from the ashes like a phoenix. he will write another book - do tv interviews and visit college campuses.

[bert]

There were FBI agents flying in and out of Arizona to get Sammy to autograph everything and anything before he was busted for the pills. Then they dropped him like a hot potato. I would still love to know how Locsacio's attorneys reached him in if he is in an undisclosed location. In any event, this might turn out to be his rising from the ashes like a phoenix. he will write another book - do tv interviews and visit college campuses.

They may have reached him through his daughter she is hooked up with MTV and has an attorney agent I would guess


I think the FBI and feds did try to help him after the drug bust in Arizona, and the Attorney General of that state stood up to the feds, which was a surprise.

[NYNighthawk]

There were FBI agents flying in and out of Arizona to get Sammy to autograph everything and anything before he was busted for the pills. Then they dropped him like a hot potato. I would still love to know how Locsacio's attorneys reached him in if he is in an undisclosed location. In any event, this might turn out to be his rising from the ashes like a phoenix. he will write another book - do tv interviews and visit college campuses.

They may have reached him through his daughter she is hooked up with MTV and has an attorney agent I would guess


I think the FBI and feds did try to help him after the drug bust in Arizona, and the Attorney General of that state stood up to the feds, which was a surprise.

+1
That would make sense to reach out to the daughter- never thought of that.
However, that would be very disturbing if the feds did try to step in to block the processing of his drug arrest. That would make for a very interesting congressional hearing on FBI abuses.