New Orleans and The Commission

[Ozgoz]

New Orleans you always hear did not have to answer to the commission out of respect of being the first family (if even that is true).

But what did that really mean and was it really the case? Because the only benefit would be I suspect being able to make guys without asking NY. They wouldn’t have gone out into other territory without permission (although their territory does seem murky and there is debate on what and who Marcello did or did not control).

I’ve searched through Mary Ferrell and found nothing to suggest anything was ever practiced or transpired regarding this.

[Grouchy Sinatra]

Matrangas and Provenzanos were the early families battling for turf there. I believe after police chief Hennessey was killed and the mass lynching of Italians in retaliation both families migrated away. I know the Matrangas migrated west because they've had a presence in every southwest city. Not sure if the Provenzanos in Louisiana had any relation to Provenzanos in NY like Tony Pro.

There was someone named Carolla in charge before Marcello. Marcello was heavily connected with Costello and Lansky so he definitely answered to the commission.

Scorsese says in the Casino blu-ray special features that the mob started in New Orleans and was there before NY.

[Antiliar]

Joe Colombo said this in a meeting around 1966:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 5&tab=page

[Confederate]

Matrangas and Provenzanos were the early families battling for turf there. I believe after police chief Hennessey was killed and the mass lynching of Italians in retaliation both families migrated away. I know the Matrangas migrated west because they've had a presence in every southwest city. Not sure if the Provenzanos in Louisiana had any relation to Provenzanos in NY like Tony Pro.

There was someone named Carolla in charge before Marcello. Marcello was heavily connected with Costello and Lansky so he definitely answered to the commission.

Scorsese says in the Casino blu-ray special features that the mob started in New Orleans and was there before NY.

There was ONE lynching of 11 Italians in 1891. Stop purposely exaggerating & distorting the facts by trying to make it look like White Southerners went around in 1891 and just randomly started lynching anybody who was Italian. Some of the 11 who were lynched were involved in killing Hennessey. The others were suspect because of their association with the ones involved in killing him.

[Antiliar]

Matrangas and Provenzanos were the early families battling for turf there. I believe after police chief Hennessey was killed and the mass lynching of Italians in retaliation both families migrated away. I know the Matrangas migrated west because they've had a presence in every southwest city. Not sure if the Provenzanos in Louisiana had any relation to Provenzanos in NY like Tony Pro.

There was someone named Carolla in charge before Marcello. Marcello was heavily connected with Costello and Lansky so he definitely answered to the commission.

Scorsese says in the Casino blu-ray special features that the mob started in New Orleans and was there before NY.

The Matrangas and Provenzanos didn't move anywhere after the mass lynching. Salvatore Matranga, the father of Charles and Tony Matranga, died in New Orleans in 1896, and Charles died around 1922. According to the Justice Department Corrado Giacona was boss until 1944, then Sylvester Carollo until 1947, Frank Todaro for a few months, then Carlos Marcello. The FBN added that Leoluca Trombatore was actually the boss until his death in 1963. An FBI informant also said that Leoluca was the boss before Marcello, and suggested that a Sam Guarino was the boss in the 1930s.

[B.]

Salvatore Falcone married a Provenzano from New Orleans. I couldn't confirm if she was related to the early NO mafia Provenzanos but Falcone ran deep in mafia circles. Can you confirm where they were from?

[Antiliar]

Salvatore Falcone married a Provenzano from New Orleans. I couldn't confirm if she was related to the early NO mafia Provenzanos but Falcone ran deep in mafia circles. Can you confirm where they were from?

Can you DM me what you have?

[Angelo Santino]

Salvatore Falcone married a Provenzano from New Orleans. I couldn't confirm if she was related to the early NO mafia Provenzanos but Falcone ran deep in mafia circles. Can you confirm where they were from?

Can you DM me what you have?

You're both on the same time zone, you both should talk on the phone. If you both have time next week we can do at 10pst one of these nights and I'll make the intro and shut up and let you guys talk.

[Angelo Santino]

Salvatore Falcone married a Provenzano from New Orleans. I couldn't confirm if she was related to the early NO mafia Provenzanos but Falcone ran deep in mafia circles. Can you confirm where they were from?

I just learned the Piros were somebody in NO, thanks to Cavita who informed me of this after I learned Musso married a woman from that bloodline. For everything I know there's a million things I don't.

[Antiliar]

Salvatore Falcone married a Provenzano from New Orleans. I couldn't confirm if she was related to the early NO mafia Provenzanos but Falcone ran deep in mafia circles. Can you confirm where they were from?

I just learned the Piros were somebody in NO, thanks to Cavita who informed me of this after I learned Musso married a woman from that bloodline. For everything I know there's a million things I don't.

I wrote about the Piros in my article on Vito Di Giorgio in Informer. When Orazio Tropea was killed in Chicago an address book was found that had several important names, including Piro. Tony Lombardo was also in it, or course, and so was Saverio Pollaccia, Joe Masseria's consigliere.

[Grouchy Sinatra]

The Matrangas and Provenzanos didn't move anywhere after the mass lynching. Salvatore Matranga, the father of Charles and Tony Matranga, died in New Orleans in 1896, and Charles died around 1922. According to the Justice Department Corrado Giacona was boss until 1944, then Sylvester Carollo until 1947, Frank Todaro for a few months, then Carlos Marcello. The FBN added that Leoluca Trombatore was actually the boss until his death in 1963. An FBI informant also said that Leoluca was the boss before Marcello, and suggested that a Sam Guarino was the boss in the 1930s.

The Matrangas out west weren't related to the Matrangas in New Orleans?

[Antiliar]

The Matrangas and Provenzanos didn't move anywhere after the mass lynching. Salvatore Matranga, the father of Charles and Tony Matranga, died in New Orleans in 1896, and Charles died around 1922. According to the Justice Department Corrado Giacona was boss until 1944, then Sylvester Carollo until 1947, Frank Todaro for a few months, then Carlos Marcello. The FBN added that Leoluca Trombatore was actually the boss until his death in 1963. An FBI informant also said that Leoluca was the boss before Marcello, and suggested that a Sam Guarino was the boss in the 1930s.

The Matrangas out west weren't related to the Matrangas in New Orleans?

No. The New Orleans Matrangas came from Ustica, and the SoCal ones were from Piana dei Greci. They could have been related going back many generations back to the 1700s or earlier, but they were basically unrelated.

[scagghiuni]

The Matrangas and Provenzanos didn't move anywhere after the mass lynching. Salvatore Matranga, the father of Charles and Tony Matranga, died in New Orleans in 1896, and Charles died around 1922. According to the Justice Department Corrado Giacona was boss until 1944, then Sylvester Carollo until 1947, Frank Todaro for a few months, then Carlos Marcello. The FBN added that Leoluca Trombatore was actually the boss until his death in 1963. An FBI informant also said that Leoluca was the boss before Marcello, and suggested that a Sam Guarino was the boss in the 1930s.

The Matrangas out west weren't related to the Matrangas in New Orleans?

No. The New Orleans Matrangas came from Ustica, and the SoCal ones were from Piana dei Greci. They could have been related going back many generations back to the 1700s or earlier, but they were basically unrelated.

i thought the new orleans matranga came from monreale

[furiofromnaples]

Joe Colombo said this in a meeting around 1966:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 5&tab=page

In this other file are listed in 1967, 20 made men in New Orleans.

[motorfab]

They were definitely more than 5 contrary to what the informant says on the link, but they probably introduced more members circa 1967. On the other hand it was quite possible that most of the members were old, so that would be why Marcello asked to open the books. Anyway, that's what I think