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Was combing through a couple dozen Italian Language articles and found this VERY interesting piece.....



by Davide de Bari
"A structure that included all the mafias"

"After the massacres of Falcone and Borsellino, a new organization of the mafias was born, a 'new thing' to prevent Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta from taking a blow from the state".

It is the collaborator of justice, Gaetano Costa , a former 'ndranghetista but also a former "reserved" member of Cosa Nostra, who recounts the birth of the new structure with the two criminal organizations at its center, in the deposition of yesterday afternoon before the Court of Assizes of Reggio Calabria, presided over by Ornella Pastore , in which the 'Ndrangheta stragista process is celebrated.


"I was in Cuneo prison when Momo Raso told me that this 'new thing' was being organized - he added in response to questions from the deputy prosecutorGiuseppe Lombardo - After the massacres of 1992 the treatment in prison was not good and we were looking for rebels. He (Raso, ed ) said that we had to be quiet so that we could end our troubles in prison and that the 41a would end and avoid having new collaborators ".

According to Costa, this "new thing" would have included both apical families of the 'Ndrangheta and those of Cosa Nostra.


"When I asked Raso 'who are we always the same? - the witness recalled - He told me yes and this therefore does not exclude that there were Mancuso, Franco Muto and of course the Piromalli-De Stefano and others ".
Moreover, they would also have been part of it"The Barbarians, the Mammolites of San Luca, the Alvaro, the Papalas, Fish, the Ursinos, the Mutes of Cetraro and the Arena of the Island of Caporizzuto" . While for the Sicilians there were "the Pullarà and many other families of Palermo Corleonese" .

According to the collaborator, this "new super-structure served to insert unsuspected people, connections with political, institutional and Masonic entities" into the fabric of Sicilian and Calabrian crime.
Among the objectives the"Need to avoid everything the state was doing against us. Avoid the 41 bis, avoid the seizure of assets, and support people in jail, get them the salary and not induce them to cooperate with justice out of necessity, avoid new arrests and blitz " .


Costa also talked about the relationships that existed between Calabrians and Sicilians: “Up until a certain time they were of tacit respect, but then they began to be taken into greater consideration. If needed, there was no problem asking. Also because the Palermo people began to frequent the prisons, while before they met only in the area of ​​Palermo ".


Speaking of the territory of Messina, Costa reported that the same was a sort of middle ground, in the seventies controlled by the 'Ndrangheta and that subsequently saw a return of Cosa Nostra.

And so the relations between the two criminal groups were born.


THIS WAS THE PART I FOUND A LITTLE STARTLING...


In answering the questions of the prosecutor Giuseppe Lombardo, Costa spoke about how Nitto Santapaola would be linked, even before Cosa Nostra, to the 'Ndrangheta. " Nitto Santapaola was' ndranghetista - he said - and then after the death of Calderone he entered in relationships with the Palermo of Cosa nostra.


He was the representative and there was the brother when the Casinos in Taormina had to be opened ”.In addition, the collaborator said that in 1977, in the prison of Reggio Calabria, " Franco Romeo was a loyalist of Santapaola da Catania he had the sgarro for Christmas Iamonte and from me along with Nitto Santapaola that he had given to Iamonte" .

Although with some difficulties, Costa confirmed that among the leading figures of the criminal world there was the figure of the lawyer Giorgio De Stefano , considered the "mind" of the family. A subject "in close relations with Giuseppe Piromalli , the Papalas and the Barbaros of Platì and with Mariano Agate of Mazara del Vallo and with Leoluca Bagarella ".



Indeed, in a report of October 11, 1994, he attributed a "decisive role in peace negotiations (there was the war of 'Ndrangheta, ed ) and is still one of the components of the top structure of the new thing." I do not exclude it - he said yesterday - Some of my memories, then, led me to say this. Today I am not able to remember. "
The trial hearing was postponed to Monday, June 6.
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For what it's worth Nino Calderone didn't mention anything about the Ndrangheta ever operating on Sicilian soil or anything about Nitto being an Ndranghetista. He was well versed in the history of his area from his brother and uncle even tho he got things wrong sometimes.

I always wondered why Cosa Nostra wasn't as prevalent on the Eastern side of the island as the Western. Could it be that there was Ndrangheta already there? But of course with all the informers over the years no one has ever mentioned something like that to my knowledge.

In this article you have Geatano Costa saying he was a member of both Ndrangheta and Cosa Nostra and Giuseppe Lombardo saying that NItto Santapaola was also an Ndranghetista and a Mafioso. Very interesting stuff.
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The other really interesting point, is this thing g was organized by powerful FAMILY CLANS, Barbaro, Piromalli, the " Palermo Corleonese".....

I've said before I think this is the era of the Clan....
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I said this awhile back and got into an argument when I first came on the forum that Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta are one and the same . There were other people other than Gaetano Costa who specifically stated that what the authorities, Not all of them did not realize is that they were up against one Big Mafia and that these 2 groups were actually one and the same
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they are one and the same since the beginning, before italy unification when sicily, calabria and naples where the two sicilies kingdom under the bourbons, cosa nostra/ndrangheta/camorra are just regional nicknames
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scagghiuni wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:58 am they are one and the same since the beginning, before italy unification when sicily, calabria and naples where the two sicilies kingdom under the bourbons, cosa nostra/ndrangheta/camorra are just regional nicknames
I thought it was Just Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta that are one and the same group with The Cammorra and SCU being totally separate and operating in a totally different manner then LCN Ndrangheta. The Cammorra has no pyramidal structure and no mandamenti , No dome , No cupola, No boss or Commission ! The Cammorra is Like a bunch of gangs , Just clans with a BOSS who are constantly battling each other .
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In the 1970's the Italian government began relocating people with mafia affiliation to northern Italy based on the theory that you can reform a criminal by taking him out of a criminal environment. What resulted was, for the first time in Italy's unified history, was the spread of southern organized crime groups to places where they never previously existed. What was observed between the various groups operating in the same vicinity was that they behaved pacifically towards each other, sometimes in tandem and other times at odds. No group ever set out to "take over" the other. When the SCU was officially formed, it's coronation was attended by members of the Camorra and members of 'Ndrangheta in a show of recognition. There's this idea that the Mafia (single or plural) are out to wipe out the other or that there's this animosity when, aside from individual circumstances, doesn't appear to be a cultural trait of the Italian malavita.
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Bklyn21 wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:00 pm
scagghiuni wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:58 am they are one and the same since the beginning, before italy unification when sicily, calabria and naples where the two sicilies kingdom under the bourbons, cosa nostra/ndrangheta/camorra are just regional nicknames
I thought it was Just Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta that are one and the same group with The Cammorra and SCU being totally separate and operating in a totally different manner then LCN Ndrangheta. The Cammorra has no pyramidal structure and no mandamenti , No dome , No cupola, No boss or Commission ! The Cammorra is Like a bunch of gangs , Just clans with a BOSS who are constantly battling each other .
the real camorra are not the juvenile gangs but the casalesi, the contini-licciardi, the polverino-nuvoletta etc. the scu is also the same thing, it changes the name but just a regional one, there are several informants who said they are all the same thing
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scagghiuni wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:10 pm
Bklyn21 wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:00 pm
scagghiuni wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:58 am they are one and the same since the beginning, before italy unification when sicily, calabria and naples where the two sicilies kingdom under the bourbons, cosa nostra/ndrangheta/camorra are just regional nicknames
I thought it was Just Cosa Nostra and Ndrangheta that are one and the same group with The Cammorra and SCU being totally separate and operating in a totally different manner then LCN Ndrangheta. The Cammorra has no pyramidal structure and no mandamenti , No dome , No cupola, No boss or Commission ! The Cammorra is Like a bunch of gangs , Just clans with a BOSS who are constantly battling each other .
the real camorra are not the juvenile gangs but the casalesi, the contini-licciardi, the polverino-nuvoletta etc. the scu is also the same thing, it changes the name but just a regional one, there are several informants who said they are all the same thing
What is your opinion on Saviano? I'm beginning to suspect that he uses the "under carabinieri protection" statement as a marketing ploy, I didn't read anything that revealing. It certainly wasn't the pentagon papers. Just curious. He gave an interview and explained the modern camorra, saying that there's no semblance of a criminal fraternity like the mafia, instead its akin to cartels and that someone can move to Naples and just start a camorra gang (technically).

I need to freshen up Naples post 1960. There was the NCO and the NF (wasn't that allied with the Mafia?). When you say "real camorra" and cite the casalesi, Contini-Licciardi and Polverino-Nuvoletta, what do you mean by that? Are you stating that they have a mutual recognition of each other or are you saying they have a criminal association among them? Based on what I've read and gathered would I be wrong to equate what passes for the camorra to localized Naples versions of Mexican Cartels?
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Those clans mentioned, Nuvoletta-Polverino- Orlando, ( very powerful, Casalesi... very powerful, Licciardi- Contini- Mallardo- Bosti- Aieta.... very powerful....

These clans are virtually indistinguishable from the powerful Calabrian and Sicilian clans....

I've read a TON recently about the Licciardi clan in particular...

The DiLauro clan is in serious trouble after the defection of Salvatore Tammburrino...

The LoRusso clan openly challenged the Licciardi, showed up to the Masseria Cardone farm and shot at Maria Licciardis house.....

Speaking of Licciardi, fmdid you guys see the thread I made awhile back about her? Onn Italian journalist described her as maybe just as powerful as Matteo Nessina Denaro. I asked if she was the most powerful female criminal.

I got Hilary Clinton jokes........
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Also, it's a little bit of a misconception that the gangs are the exact same as the clans. These gangs are like the Cursoti, (is that it?) From Sicily. The clans USE the gangs as they see fit, mostly as cheap disposable muscle.
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"Patrizio Bosti, Eduardo Contini, Francesco Mallardo, Maria Licciardi: the 4 leaders of the Secondigliano Alliance". They also commanded from prison
Of Antonio Mangione -June 27, 2019


Patrizio Bosti, Eduardo Contini, Francesco Mallardo, Maria Licciardi : according to the investigations of the DDA, they are the leaders of the Secondigliano Alliance. Yesterday the final blow with 126 arrests and over 200 people under investigation.


Returns an alarming picture of the Neapolitan criminal level, far from the "pulverization" of the past years but characterized "by a sophisticated mafia direction": the investigation by the Naples prosecutor's office on the so-called Secondigliano Alliance focuses on a camorra that does not shoot (or almost ) but think about business.


Today a maxi inter-force blitz coordinated by the Public Prosecutor, which involved police, carabinieri, the Guardia di Finanza and Dia, has dealt a severe blow to the criminal federation of the Contini, Licciardi and Mallardo families.

A total of 126 precautionary measures were issued (89 in prison and 36 under house arrest and a ban on staying in Campania).

Some members of the Licciardi, including Maria Licciardi, sister of one of the founders of the Alliance, Gennaro Licciardi, known as "the monkey", escaped arrest. The financiers have seized goods for over 130 million euros throughout Italy - companies, cars, motorcycles, a boat, houses, companies, commercial and business activities, fine watches and diamonds.

Founded by three historical bosses in the late 1980s, the Alliance is still pervasive in the shadow of Vesuvius.

The prominent role is played by the Continis, and at the top of the federation are the brides of the bosses Edoardo Contini, Patrizio Bosti and Francesco Mallardo, the three sisters Aieta (Maria, Rita and Anna) and, of course Maria Licciardi.

All had a leadership role. Women who kept contacts with the bosses at 41bis and gave orders to the affiliates on the management of welfare and business.

Broad-spectrum business that was not "limited" to traffic and the sale of cocaine and marijuana from South America, via Holland, thanks to privileged and "coded" relations with the 'Ndrangheta, in particular with the Commisso of Siderno.

Surveys revealed that the Contini family also managed all the activities of a hospital in Naples, San Giovanni Bosco, which became famous for the cases of ants in the wards. There they controlled every aspect, from hiring to contracts, to labor relations. Not only.

With the complicity of the health professionals they carried on the flourishing business of insurance frauds, even for other clans. And if a patient died, the Camorra could have him "resurrected" on the documents allowing the relatives, for "only" 500 euros, to be able to take him home by ambulance early. In essence, the prosecutor of Naples Giovanni Melillo emphasized, "the hospital was the logistical base for their criminal plots".

HERE ARE THE NAMES OF ALL ARRESTED
ARRESTS IN PRISON
acanfora Ciro
AIDA Antonio
AIETA Anna
AIETA Antonio
AIETA Maria
AIETA Rita
Alfano Alessio
AMBROSIO Mario
Ammerman Joseph
ANIELLO Alberto
ARDUINO Giuseppe
ATTARDO Gaetano
BARBELLA Giulio
BAR Happy
BOSTI Ettore
BOSTI Patrick
BOTTA Angelo
BOTTA John
BOTTA Lucia
BOTTA Nicola
BOTTA Salvatore
BOTTA Salvatore
BOTTA Vincenzo
CANDIDO Giovanni
CANDIDO Lamberto
CAPOZZO Rosario
CAPOZZOLI Vincenzo
CASO Pietro
CERBONE Pietro
CICCARELLI Giuseppe

CINO Pasquale CIULLO Giuseppe
COMMITTEE Salvatore
CONTINI Edoardo
COPPOLA Carlo
CORRADO Gennaro
COSTA Gennaro
CUOMO Alfredo
CRISTIANO Antonio
CRISTIANO Fabio
CRISTIANO Tommaso
DE FEO Alfredo
DELLE WOMEN Maurizio
DEL MONDO Gennaro
DEL PIANO Giuseppe
DE FALCO Guglielmo
DE ROSA Giuseppe
DI CARINO
Luigi ESPOSITO
Rosa
Domenico
ESPOSITO Ettore
ESPOSITO Giovanni
ESPOSITO Luca
FALANGA Umberto
FIORENTINO Massimo FOLCHETTI Luigi GIAMMINELLI Francesco
FIORILLO Gennaro


GIORDANO Giuseppe
Grasso Emanuele
BIG Gennaro
LICCIARDI Maria
MALLARDO Francesco
MARSEILLE Giuseppe
Mendozzi Salvatore
MEROLLA Salvatore
Murano Roberto
MUSCERINO Antonio
PATIERNO Michele
pellìccio Gennaro
Pengue Antonio
PERCOPE Salvatore
FISH Antonio
Petrone Salvatore
PICARDI Patrick
Poggi Luciano
POMATICO Mario
Riccio Bruno
Riccio Gennaro
ROLLER Nicola
PLUG Giuseppe
TOLOMELLI Carmine
TOLOMELLI Giuseppe
TOLOMELLI Vincenzo
TOLOMELLI Vincenzo
VITTORIO Raffaele
VITTORIO Salvatore
VOLPE Francesco

HOUSE ARREST

Acanfora Salvatore
AMBROSIO Vincenzo
Anatriello Francesco
Boselli Alessandro
BOTTA Ciro
CALIENNO Antonio
Colantuono Peter
Bracale Vincenza
CHIAVARONE Ciro
CHIAVARONE Leopoldo
CHRISTIAN Maurizio
De Rosa Gennaro
Di Martino Gianluca
Di Martino Paolo
finizio Nunzio
GUELI Francesco
EMPEROR Antonella
LIETO Domenico
BEEF Francesco
Marano Mario
MATINO Mario
MECHERI Enrico
Morescanti Claudio
NADDEO Franco
CHRISTMAS Domenico
PALMA Vito PANICO
Concetta
PASQUARIELLO Vincenzo
PERSICO Luigi
PROSPERO Salvatore
RINALDI Antonio
RINALDI Pasquale
RIVA Marco
SANTORIELLO Fortunato
TARALLO Vincenzo
VENTRIGLIA Vincenzo
PROHIBITION OF HOUSE IN CAMPANIA
ESPOSITO Gaetano



The words of the magistrates:
in particular MALLARDO Francesco, BOSTI Patrizio and CONTINI Eduardo for having continued to maintain, even in detention, the control and direction of the respective clans and the supremacy in the adoption of the strategic choices of the Alliance; -AIETA Maria, AIETA Rita, AIETA Anna, consorts respectively of CONTINI Eduardo, BOSTI Patrizia and MALLARDO Francesco, with the roles of managers and participants of the strategic directives, both in the internal relations to the single confederal clans and in the relations between them within of the Alliance and externally, directly and consciously involved in the management of the criminal affairs of the mafia coterie with management and decision-making powers in coordination with their spouses, also as vehicles to the outside of the respective directives, and with autonomous powers especially in relation to the control of usury and extortion and to the management of the economic income of the mafia confederation; ESPOSITO Gaetano, external competitor of the radiant confederation, permanently and consciously occupying himself with reinvesting a portion of the capital illicitly accumulated by the heavens' members of the Secondigliano Alliance in various economic and financial activities, including real estate investments and large-scale investment in gold and precious metals, and remaining at the disposal of the association for any economic and financial activity and necessity aimed at maintaining and increasing the economic-criminal strength of the Alliance, to whose leaders it constantly related and to which it reported,

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