Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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Me, sonny, and pogo were talkin about this topic in the general mob questions section, but I’ve decided to make a whole thread for this subject. First off, i do not agree with pogo’s take. Both gene and john did 30 years, and I think it would only make sense for them on be rewarded either with an envelope, a racket, or a promotion. If gene and john dont get shit, that sends a horrible message to the gambinos lower level guys. If anyone would like to join the convo feel free to do so. Also, does anyone know the specifics of gene and john’s parole restrictions?
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The mob doesn't operate based on what makes sense to you. I don't know what will happen to them in regards to them getting involved again or being promoted if they do. But we do know that the mob doesn't give free money to guys simply for doing their time.


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Does anyone prominent in the family have any connection to Gene or Carneglia? Cefalu, Cali, Mannino?
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm The mob doesn't operate based on what makes sense to you. I don't know what will happen to them in regards to them getting involved again or being promoted if they do. But we do know that the mob doesn't give free money to guys simply for doing their time.


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Can't argue with that statement. "The mob doesn't give free money to guys for simply doing their time" for which THEY TOOK AN OATH.

Now, that being said, anything is possible. Maybe they will get a loan to restart, maybe they will get access to a specific type of racket that they must work to make money, maybe this or maybe maybe that etc etc. but the Criminal Organization known as the Mafia where money flows up, not down, does not hand out free envelopes to guys who come out of prison as a form of payment for keeping silent. Maybe they get rewarded some other way, but not that way.
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gohnjotti wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:05 pm Does anyone prominent in the family have any connection to Gene or Carneglia? Cefalu, Cali, Mannino?
Jackie DAmico maybe.

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gohnjotti wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:05 pm Does anyone prominent in the family have any connection to Gene or Carneglia? Cefalu, Cali, Mannino?
Mikey Paradiso, maybe Vinny Artuso now he's out. Two capo's. None of the major names you mentioned were even made when Gene and John went away so I'd doubt they are tight with the leadership.
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I think there will be some opportunities to earn if they really want to jump back in. Even though the Gotti era is over, they are well known and respected amongst their peers. I’m skeptical of promotions though. Guys don’t just receive promotions for serving time. They’re too old to be assembling new crews and working their way up.
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Re: Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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Hopefully Capeci does an article on John soon now that’s he’s released.
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Re: Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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Gene allegedly had a solid shy book but worst case they get $ from the admin to keep a DL shy business and more or less semi retire
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Re: Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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I was gonna say as TommyNoto said above, pretty sure Gene left stuff on the street that he still till this day has in interest in so at the very least he has some income to
Come back to and take over again. No idea on John C though- always thought of him as a leg breaker and not an earner though so wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t have anything to come back to, but I have no idea. I doubt they’ll get auto-promotions but maybe given some rackets so they have income to come back to then yeah. I know I’m Philly with some of the Scarfo guys when they got back they were given some guys realigned to them and probably customers back to them or realigned to them...
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They may be old but those dogs can still hunt.



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I thought they pretty much knocked down anyone from the Gotti era besides their own people. Can’t see giving two guys promotions considering it would be breaking up other crews to give them guys. As far as envelopes that could happen Al Trucchio handed Lorenzo 30k when he came home to get back on his feet. So it does happen. But end of the day what happens is up to a small group of people not anyone else. I don’t think gene gets a promotion. John I no nothing about. I think they sit back I’m sure they both have earns going on.
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MoLarryCurly wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:20 pm Can’t see giving two guys promotions considering it would be breaking up other crews to give them guys.
No disrespect but who gives a shit about breaking up other crews.

Administration doesnt generally take into account BFF soldiers hurt feelings when making decisions. If you catch my drift.
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Re: Gene Gotti, John Carneglia

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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:32 pm
MoLarryCurly wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:20 pm Can’t see giving two guys promotions considering it would be breaking up other crews to give them guys.
No disrespect but who gives a shit about breaking up other crews.

Administration doesnt generally take into account BFF soldiers hurt feelings when making decisions. If you catch my drift.

I hear that. Was just giving my input. They seem pretty tight with leadership. I feel like anyone they have as skipper is close to ADMiN and they wouldn’t break any of those crews up. I’m just talking here, end of day like I said it’s up to only a few people and you’re correct when you say they don’t give a fuk who likes it or don’t
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