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I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
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Weird, they wanna do something similar in Chicago, but in the South Loop. But they are still trying to figure financing I think....
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Ooh, lol just looked it up....

Same fuckin developer......makes sense....
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BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:25 am I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
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BillyBrizzi wrote:I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
From what I've read it seems that the construction industry still is the hardest sector to rid of LCN influence by the government. Probably because the building companies themselves like the price fixing and bid-rigging clubs too much..
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BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:44 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
From what I've read it seems that the construction industry still is the hardest sector to rid of LCN influence by the government. Probably because the building companies themselves like the price fixing and bid-rigging clubs too much..
True.

Here is a recent article on the corruption in the NY construction industry. There are just so many ways the mob can exploit it. And Giuliani wasn't able to bring regulatory oversight to the construction industry like he did garbage hauling and the food markets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/therealdea ... ption/amp/
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am
BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:25 am I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
How many instances are you referring to? Is it just the one? Or was that Turner?

Either way more than likely these monster companies have no idea they are using a mobbed up sub on one or two trades when there are 100 or more other subs and trades on the job
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:00 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am
BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:25 am I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
How many instances are you referring to? Is it just the one? Or was that Turner?

Either way more than likely these monster companies have no idea they are using a mobbed up sub on one or two trades when there are 100 or more other subs and trades on the job
A lot of times these large GC companies don't. Tishman was a high rise builder in Manhattan for decades and couldn't help but rub up against the mob in some form or another. Anyway, the company that was discussed recently in another thread was Turner. One of the mob companies Tishman used was Laquila Construction which has ties to the Gambinos and Colombos.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:25 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:00 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am
BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:25 am I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
How many instances are you referring to? Is it just the one? Or was that Turner?

Either way more than likely these monster companies have no idea they are using a mobbed up sub on one or two trades when there are 100 or more other subs and trades on the job
A lot of times these large GC companies don't. Tishman was a high rise builder in Manhattan for decades and couldn't help but rub up against the mob in some form or another. Anyway, the company that was discussed recently in another thread was Turner. One of the mob companies Tishman used was Laquila Construction which has ties to the Gambinos and Colombos.
Yeah that is my point. These people are doing 500 million and billion dollar projects. They are not looking into a sub over a few million. I am personally in this industry as a small sub and have worked with both companies. Trust me, they have no clue.
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:07 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:25 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:00 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:27 am
BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:25 am I wonder if the mob still gets a piece of these huge construction projects in Manhattan, like they did in the 70's and 80's. The massive Hudson Yards redevelopment program currently being build on the West Side of Manhattan for example, costs at least $20 billion dollars to build..

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4vTSdu-44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan
At least in some cases, yes. It would be interesting to see who all the subcontractors are on the project. Tishman Construction is one of the main contractors on the project and they have used mob-connected subs in the past.
How many instances are you referring to? Is it just the one? Or was that Turner?

Either way more than likely these monster companies have no idea they are using a mobbed up sub on one or two trades when there are 100 or more other subs and trades on the job
A lot of times these large GC companies don't. Tishman was a high rise builder in Manhattan for decades and couldn't help but rub up against the mob in some form or another. Anyway, the company that was discussed recently in another thread was Turner. One of the mob companies Tishman used was Laquila Construction which has ties to the Gambinos and Colombos.
Yeah that is my point. These people are doing 500 million and billion dollar projects. They are not looking into a sub over a few million. I am personally in this industry as a small sub and have worked with both companies. Trust me, they have no clue.
Though it should be noted that some of these large firms wouldn't/don't care even if they were aware. And the firms have issues themselves. Last October Turner had their offices raided as part of an investigation into overbilling. And back in 2015, Tishman paid a $20 million fine for overbilling over a decade.

Oh, and I would add that another mob subcontractor Tishman used was Thomas Petrizzo's company AJ Ross Logistics.
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Yeah I know the news about Tishman
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