Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

[mafiastudent]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

I already said that he should have been castrated for molesting her. If he had actually raped her, then he should have been killed. Does that answer your question?

Can I ask you a question? What is the point of you putting all this effort into this "Crusade"? Are you going to make money from it? is it your job to write about all the perceived injustices done to Mafia Guys? Are you planning to start an Italian Anti-Defamation League like Joe Colombo? Do you hope to get a law degree & try to defend one of these guys? Do you hope one of them gets out of jail because of your opinion? No offense, but what is the point of all of it if you don't mind me asking?

Because I'm interested in it and want to expose different truths. No glory-seeking. Straight out truth-seeking.

But the "truth" is only your opinion and from what I have read, your opinion goes against a jury of 12 peers who found these guys guilty of a least one or more counts for which they were indicted. So, the jury's "truth" overrides your "truth" and you 're back to square one. It's a no win situation for you. But good luck with it if it makes you happy.

MafiaStudent is backing everything up with court records, transcripts and records, plus interviews, it isn't like she is just taking guesses. It's not her truth, it's the truth.

Well, we know he didn't read anything....because as was shown earlier in this thread...he makes assumptions based on facts -- re abuse of RICO laws in civil cases. He made opinions without facts and then turned around and said he hadn't researched it yet still made his opinions without any factual basis. So, there you go.

[mafiastudent]

assumptions based on non-facts and only preconceived notions, I should say. Surface research really, but not even that.

[Pogo The Clown]

So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me.

I don't know about him personally taking part in a murder but he no doubt has been involved in having people killed since the Luccheses have dropped over a dozen bodies since he has been in the administration.


Pogo

If there were no doubt he would have been in prison years ago. We don't put people in jail because "It's likely" or "He/she probably" did something. If there is proof show it. There is no such verdict as "probably"

Well he is a convicted murderer. So he is right were he belongs despite what his parasite lawyers, his scummy kid or his two member fan club on this forum have to say about it.


Pogo

[Confederate]

assumptions based on non-facts and only preconceived notions, I should say. Surface research really, but not even that.

What you think means nothing in the world of reality. The stupid bastard was tried & convicted by a jury of 12 peers. That's it. End of story. You can write about your "opinion" for the next 1o,000 pages & that won't change anything & nobody cares.

[Pete]

So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me.

I don't know about him personally taking part in a murder but he no doubt has been involved in having people killed since the Luccheses have dropped over a dozen bodies since he has been in the administration.


Pogo

If there were no doubt he would have been in prison years ago. We don't put people in jail because "It's likely" or "He/she probably" did something. If there is proof show it. There is no such verdict as "probably"

Well he is a convicted murderer. So he is right were he belongs despite what his parasite lawyers, his scummy kid or his two member fan club on this forum have to say about it.


Pogo

I get where your coming from I really do. I don’t believe the rat they had but by the law he is guilty if he is underboss and a murder takes place is that right?

[Ozgoz]

I’m not an expert on US law but in the UK if someone tells you they are committing s crime and you don’t report it, you are a guilty coconspirator.

If Locascio gave even tacit complicity, or even said bad idea, or even pretended he was reading the paper.... and did not pick up the phone immediately to report the crime, then he’s guilty.

Add in the fact the crime is murder, and he’s part of a criminal organisation.... end of thread, no? (For Locasio).

I’d be very surprised if US law does not work in the same way.

[SonnyBlackstein]

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

The fuck are you talking about. Way to appeal to baseline emotion and ignore my points/argument or logic.
I’m simply arguing for basic due process and the protection of the law as a right vs a subjective, “feelings!” based argument the you’re pushing.
If a bad person gets away with a bad thing, it’s bad, no argument, OBVIOUSLY, but to therefor say fuck the system let’s just put who we want away because of ‘feelings!’ is a childish argument that women and children use.
Nobodies saying the system is perfect or bad guys who should be in jail aren’t, but your alternative which is to throw the whole thing away and just do what you want based on how you feel, is awesome

[moneyman]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

[mafiastudent]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

But that has no bearing on this case. Each case is separate in and of itself. And using what was printed in the book as any sort of evidence is invalid (not saying that's what you mean). The evidence in Crea's case on Meldish didn't exist. He's innocent. 1000 percent.

[moneyman]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

But that has no bearing on this case. Each case is separate in and of itself. And using what was printed in the book as any sort of evidence is invalid (not saying that's what you mean). The evidence in Crea's case on Meldish didn't exist. He's innocent. 1000 percent.

I understand this has no bearing on the Meldish case. I'm merely pointing this out as I thought it was relevant to the discussion at hand.

[bert]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

D'Arco lied so much it does not count as documentation. His book was a way of taking shots at everyone in his former family, including Crea. D'Arco had only one good, tough, stand up guy in his book--himself

[moneyman]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

D'Arco lied so much it does not count as documentation. His book was a way of taking shots at everyone in his former family, including Crea. D'Arco had only one good, tough, stand up guy in his book--himself

D'Arco does not bash Crea in his book

[bert]

In Al D'Arco's book he mentions a meeting with Steven Crea at a Manhattan restaurant where Crea told D'Arco that he was ready to "go to war" with the Bronx Luchese faction. Vic Amuso was arrested shortly after this meeting so it never took place.

I don't think it's worthwhile to debate the legitimacy of Al D'Arco's claims or his book. It's been discussed ad nauseam here before, just thought it was worth mentioning given it's a documented instance of Crea willing to commit murder.

D'Arco lied so much it does not count as documentation. His book was a way of taking shots at everyone in his former family, including Crea. D'Arco had only one good, tough, stand up guy in his book--himself

D'Arco does not bash Crea in his book

Saying he was ready to go to war and kill guys is bashing him.

[Pogo The Clown]

A question for Bert and MS.


Do you think LoCascio and Crea have ever taken part in a murder conspiracy that resulted in someone death? A simply yes or no will do.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

A question for Bert and MS.


Do you think LoCascio and Crea have ever taken part in a murder conspiracy that resulted in someone death? A simply yes or no will do.


Pogo

That would be pure speculation....how the hell would I know? And what is with you guys and your yes or no questions?