Mob Duos

[Tonyd621]

John Alite and Albanian blood

[newera_212]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

[Tonyd621]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

He was a miserable SOB

[Tonyd621]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

He was a miserable SOB

That's the take I got from my research. I'll let more in depth researchers on Chicago explain it more but from the research I gathered he was not a very happy fellow.

[Nurzhamba]

Joe Amato sr&Tommy Scorcia
Bugz Silvestro&Amato jr

[PolackTony]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

My understanding is that the “hook” thing was a reference to the juice racket — he’d get his hooks into you. When you were a juice client, you were “on the hook”. It’s been disputed that he even had this nickname, may have just been one of those things that LE and the press used (like “the ant” or “the big tuna”).

As the other Tony already commented, Angelo was said to have been a miserable prick. Many of these Chicago guys were very rough and often sadistic individuals. I don’t believe the LaPietras were exceptional in this regard, when you had guys like Aiuppa, Buccieri, Cerone, Daddono, Giancana, Battaglia, Alderisio, Nicoletti, Lombardo, Spilotro, Lenny Patrick, Frank Schweihs, etc.

[newera_212]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

My understanding is that the “hook” thing was a reference to the juice racket — he’d get his hooks into you. When you were a juice client, you were “on the hook”. It’s been disputed that he even had this nickname, may have just been one of those things that LE and the press used (like “the ant” or “the big tuna”).

As the other Tony already commented, Angelo was said to have been a miserable prick. Many of these Chicago guys were very rough and often sadistic individuals. I don’t believe the LaPietras were exceptional in this regard, when you had guys like Aiuppa, Buccieri, Cerone, Daddono, Giancana, Battaglia, Alderisio, Nicoletti, Lombardo, Spilotro, Lenny Patrick, Frank Schweihs, etc.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense than him hanging multiple loan customers from meat hooks lmao.

Would love to read more about the LaPietra brothers if theres any good bio/info around.

Always wondered why chicago, the high level guys were a lot more serious, treacherous, and hands on compared to anywhere else. Like in NY for example there are countless examples of soldiers and captains being personable, decent guys who are just in it for the greed and fast money. Not necessarily vicious or capable. Chicago though, yeah money is still priority number one, but it just seems a touch more serious. A lot of these guys seemed like mean old miserable bastards. I mean you had guys doing official sanctioned mob hits in Chicago in the modern era with knives and bare hands lmao. On top of hits with an insane amount of (made) people involved in carrying them out. Also Chicago seems like much more of a spread out, suburban type of mob compared to anywhere else. Today it seems the bulk of Chicago action isnt in Chicago proper, and these guys trail blazed and set up shop in the suburbs way early in the game. There's better threads for this discussion but I wonder if that can be traced back to Capone, Cicero, etc

[SB1825]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

My understanding is that the “hook” thing was a reference to the juice racket — he’d get his hooks into you. When you were a juice client, you were “on the hook”. It’s been disputed that he even had this nickname, may have just been one of those things that LE and the press used (like “the ant” or “the big tuna”).

As the other Tony already commented, Angelo was said to have been a miserable prick. Many of these Chicago guys were very rough and often sadistic individuals. I don’t believe the LaPietras were exceptional in this regard, when you had guys like Aiuppa, Buccieri, Cerone, Daddono, Giancana, Battaglia, Alderisio, Nicoletti, Lombardo, Spilotro, Lenny Patrick, Frank Schweihs, etc.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense than him hanging multiple loan customers from meat hooks lmao.

Would love to read more about the LaPietra brothers if theres any good bio/info around.

Always wondered why chicago, the high level guys were a lot more serious, treacherous, and hands on compared to anywhere else. Like in NY for example there are countless examples of soldiers and captains being personable, decent guys who are just in it for the greed and fast money. Not necessarily vicious or capable. Chicago though, yeah money is still priority number one, but it just seems a touch more serious. A lot of these guys seemed like mean old miserable bastards. I mean you had guys doing official sanctioned mob hits in Chicago in the modern era with knives and bare hands lmao. On top of hits with an insane amount of (made) people involved in carrying them out

Every wiki page of a Chicago mobster describes them as a top loanshark who tortured victims to death. Of course it’s wiki though.

[newera_212]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

My understanding is that the “hook” thing was a reference to the juice racket — he’d get his hooks into you. When you were a juice client, you were “on the hook”. It’s been disputed that he even had this nickname, may have just been one of those things that LE and the press used (like “the ant” or “the big tuna”).

As the other Tony already commented, Angelo was said to have been a miserable prick. Many of these Chicago guys were very rough and often sadistic individuals. I don’t believe the LaPietras were exceptional in this regard, when you had guys like Aiuppa, Buccieri, Cerone, Daddono, Giancana, Battaglia, Alderisio, Nicoletti, Lombardo, Spilotro, Lenny Patrick, Frank Schweihs, etc.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense than him hanging multiple loan customers from meat hooks lmao.

Would love to read more about the LaPietra brothers if theres any good bio/info around.

Always wondered why chicago, the high level guys were a lot more serious, treacherous, and hands on compared to anywhere else. Like in NY for example there are countless examples of soldiers and captains being personable, decent guys who are just in it for the greed and fast money. Not necessarily vicious or capable. Chicago though, yeah money is still priority number one, but it just seems a touch more serious. A lot of these guys seemed like mean old miserable bastards. I mean you had guys doing official sanctioned mob hits in Chicago in the modern era with knives and bare hands lmao. On top of hits with an insane amount of (made) people involved in carrying them out

Every wiki page of a Chicago mobster describes them as a top loanshark who tortured victims to death. Of course it’s wiki though.

Exactly. Thank you. Was going to say the same thing. I haven't dived into all of the great chicago info and research that exists on this board thanks to some great posters. I've read Family Secrets and one of Rohmer's books on Vegas / Spilotro, and heard some interviews with Calabrese Junior. my knowledge is limited, I don't even understand how the crews are even set up. One day I'll dig into the chicago threads. But i feel like every time I hear about a Chicago guy, his racket is either loans (or "juice" in Chicago parlance) or shaking down porn shops. Its funny to think of a world that once existed where you could not only make a living operating a fucking peep show booth, but you could make a living extorting the guy operating peep show booths. Porn was that big of a racket that it was a primary earn for some made chicago guys?!

But yeah, back to that... every chicago guy on wiki was a brutal, sadistic loan shark who loved to torture his victims, or a guy who controlled all the porn/smut in a certain area

[Ryan98366]

John Alite and Albert Anastasia

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


How about Jimmy Calandra and Anthony Spero?

[PolackTony]

Angelo & James LaPietra

Were the LaPietra's as vicious and treacherous as rumored? The only info I've really read about them was in the Family Secrets book (the reporter's one, not the other one) - they sounded like serious, serious guys as most of the Chicago guys on that level were - but nothing extraordinary as some reports have stated. For example, I have a hard time believing that Angelo was given the nickname "the hook" because he would hang his loan victims on a meat hook.

For the Chicago guys on here...Any info on the LaPietra's ?

My understanding is that the “hook” thing was a reference to the juice racket — he’d get his hooks into you. When you were a juice client, you were “on the hook”. It’s been disputed that he even had this nickname, may have just been one of those things that LE and the press used (like “the ant” or “the big tuna”).

As the other Tony already commented, Angelo was said to have been a miserable prick. Many of these Chicago guys were very rough and often sadistic individuals. I don’t believe the LaPietras were exceptional in this regard, when you had guys like Aiuppa, Buccieri, Cerone, Daddono, Giancana, Battaglia, Alderisio, Nicoletti, Lombardo, Spilotro, Lenny Patrick, Frank Schweihs, etc.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense than him hanging multiple loan customers from meat hooks lmao.

Would love to read more about the LaPietra brothers if theres any good bio/info around.

Always wondered why chicago, the high level guys were a lot more serious, treacherous, and hands on compared to anywhere else. Like in NY for example there are countless examples of soldiers and captains being personable, decent guys who are just in it for the greed and fast money. Not necessarily vicious or capable. Chicago though, yeah money is still priority number one, but it just seems a touch more serious. A lot of these guys seemed like mean old miserable bastards. I mean you had guys doing official sanctioned mob hits in Chicago in the modern era with knives and bare hands lmao. On top of hits with an insane amount of (made) people involved in carrying them out

Every wiki page of a Chicago mobster describes them as a top loanshark who tortured victims to death. Of course it’s wiki though.

But yeah, back to that... every chicago guy on wiki was a brutal, sadistic loan shark who loved to torture his victims, or a guy who controlled all the porn/smut in a certain area

There were many Outfit guys for whom this was true, of course. But Chicago wasn’t just some juice and porn syndicate. They were very much diversified and ran all sorts of blue collar and white collar rackets (from whores to horsemeat), as well as exacting street taxes from independent operators and extorting all sorts of legit business (porn just being one that was on the margins of legality, making it especially ripe for extortion). Apart from juice, they had major gambling operations (sportsbooks, card/dice games, numbers/policy/bolita), big union rackets, business racketeering, burglary and fencing, auto chop shops, armed robbery and truck/train hijacking, and some involvement in drugs (which varied over the years and by crew). They had guys whose primary responsibilities were overseeing political and judicial corruption (including made members who held influential public offices such as Fred Roti, Pat Marcy, and Vito Marzullo) and others who were mainly involved in gambling and were not particularly rough guys (Dom Cortina and Don Angelini).

Juice was just a very lucrative racket (and of course an important corollary to other rackets like gambling and business extortion), so even guys who weren’t primarily juice guys still had money on the street. And Chicago never lacked for muscle to make sure that “clients” paid up. It’s clear that many of these guys really enjoyed their work…

[Villain]

Always wondered why chicago, the high level guys were a lot more serious, treacherous, and hands on compared to anywhere else. Like in NY for example there are countless examples of soldiers and captains being personable, decent guys who are just in it for the greed and fast money. Not necessarily vicious or capable. Chicago though, yeah money is still priority number one, but it just seems a touch more serious. A lot of these guys seemed like mean old miserable bastards.

According to one convo between Ricca and Accardo, they didnt respect the actions which were made by some of the NY families during the early 70s (the killings of Colombo and Eboli). For example, from the point when Capone took over in 1931, they never killed an official boss. Giancana wasnt official anymore when he got eliminated in 1975. In NY they killed high level guys like Scalice, Mangano, Anastasia, Colombo, Eboli and they even tried to kill Costello.

[Makelaiusiwk]

Paul Vario and tuddy