Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

[Pete]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Again an ends justify the means argument which I get to some extent but it’s hard to say it’s fair for Crea to get a life bid on a load of shit. That’s the justice system. So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me. I’m not a fanboy tho some may say otherwise. I think nicodemo deserves the sentence he got on stupidity alone. But the cooperator that named Crea none of us would probably trust to mow our lawns so why take his word on a murder? Just playing devil’s advocate I see both sides

[Confederate]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

[Pogo The Clown]

So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me.

I don't know about him personally taking part in a murder but he no doubt has been involved in having people killed since the Luccheses have dropped over a dozen bodies since he has been in the administration.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

[mafiastudent]

So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me.

I don't know about him personally taking part in a murder but he no doubt has been involved in having people killed since the Luccheses have dropped over a dozen bodies since he has been in the administration.


Pogo

Because you have the inside scoop, right?

[Pogo The Clown]

No I just don't have my head in the clouds about what these guys actually are and what LCN is all about. But keep living in your fantasy world.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

No I just don't have my head in the clouds about what these guys actually are and what LCN is all about. But keep living in your fantasy world.


Pogo

Whatever you think. I don't have my head in the cloud either. But you know what, you want to prosecute someone -- have the evidence. Don't make stuff up. And if they're proven guilty in a court of law, they are proven guilty and should serve time. But make sure it's a fair and impartial judge. And make sure, once again, that the evidence is real.

[Pogo The Clown]

About 70 Lucchese family gangland murders since Crea has been a member. A huge chunk of these while he held a leadership position. But I'm sure the poor innocent persecuted victim Steve Crea had no knowledge about any of them. I guess one rises to be UnderBoss and Acting Boss for Vic Amuso by being an angel.


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[mafiastudent]

About 70 Lucchese family gangland murders since Crea has been a member. A huge chunk of these while he held a leadership position. But I'm sure the poor innocent persecuted victim Steve Crea had no knowledge about any of them. I guess one rises to be UnderBoss and Acting Boss for Vic Amuso by being an angel.


viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6077&hilit=Chiodo

In the Meldish murder Crea is 1000% innocent. BTW, you should be interested in my next project I'm currently working on...right up your wheelhouse...no injustice...just historical.

[Confederate]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

I already said that he should have been castrated for molesting her. If he had actually raped her, then he should have been killed. Does that answer your question?

Can I ask you a question? What is the point of you putting all this effort into this "Crusade"? Are you going to make money from it? is it your job to write about all the perceived injustices done to Mafia Guys? Are you planning to start an Italian Anti-Defamation League like Joe Colombo? Do you hope to get a law degree & try to defend one of these guys? Do you hope one of them gets out of jail because of your opinion? No offense, but what is the point of all of it if you don't mind me asking?

[mafiastudent]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

I already said that he should have been castrated for molesting her. If he had actually raped her, then he should have been killed. Does that answer your question?

Can I ask you a question? What is the point of you putting all this effort into this "Crusade"? Are you going to make money from it? is it your job to write about all the perceived injustices done to Mafia Guys? Are you planning to start an Italian Anti-Defamation League like Joe Colombo? Do you hope to get a law degree & try to defend one of these guys? Do you hope one of them gets out of jail because of your opinion? No offense, but what is the point of all of it if you don't mind me asking?

Because I'm interested in it and want to expose different truths. No glory-seeking. Straight out truth-seeking.

[bert]

So if you say Crea deserves life whether he’s guilty of meldish or not what qualifies him for that? I’ve read every Lucchese book and I can’t think of any murder he was involved in. If I’m wrong please remind me.

I don't know about him personally taking part in a murder but he no doubt has been involved in having people killed since the Luccheses have dropped over a dozen bodies since he has been in the administration.


Pogo

If there were no doubt he would have been in prison years ago. We don't put people in jail because "It's likely" or "He/she probably" did something. If there is proof show it. There is no such verdict as "probably"

[Confederate]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

I already said that he should have been castrated for molesting her. If he had actually raped her, then he should have been killed. Does that answer your question?

Can I ask you a question? What is the point of you putting all this effort into this "Crusade"? Are you going to make money from it? is it your job to write about all the perceived injustices done to Mafia Guys? Are you planning to start an Italian Anti-Defamation League like Joe Colombo? Do you hope to get a law degree & try to defend one of these guys? Do you hope one of them gets out of jail because of your opinion? No offense, but what is the point of all of it if you don't mind me asking?

Because I'm interested in it and want to expose different truths. No glory-seeking. Straight out truth-seeking.

But the "truth" is only your opinion and from what I have read, your opinion goes against a jury of 12 peers who found these guys guilty of a least one or more counts for which they were indicted. So, the jury's "truth" overrides your "truth" and you 're back to square one. It's a no win situation for you. But good luck with it if it makes you happy.

[mafiastudent]

You need to look at the facts. He was convicted because of the Pinkerton liability charge...the government's backup because they had no real evidence. Once again, check your facts.

[bert]

You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy

Actually

If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.

Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official

Eugene Gold should have been castrated. He's the prosecutor who helped put David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam" killer in jail. So, what's your point?
Should David Berkowitz now be considered Innocent because his Prosecutor committed a crime after he put him in Jail?

If a Prosecutor, Judge, or Federal Agent commit a crime, it doesn't negate all the criminals they help put in jail previously & now we must all question their innocence. Sorry, but there is no connection at all.

Actually, this wasn't you had originally written before you deleted it and changed it up. I had responded but by the time I finished, you had already deleted the post.

However, is it okay that this man only got probation for molesting a child? How is it he got probation for such a heinous crime? Is being rewarded for Son of Sam? You're twisting things again. No one ever said he shouldn't get credit for Son of Sam However --- should that NEGATE his rape of a 10 year old CHILD?

I already said that he should have been castrated for molesting her. If he had actually raped her, then he should have been killed. Does that answer your question?

Can I ask you a question? What is the point of you putting all this effort into this "Crusade"? Are you going to make money from it? is it your job to write about all the perceived injustices done to Mafia Guys? Are you planning to start an Italian Anti-Defamation League like Joe Colombo? Do you hope to get a law degree & try to defend one of these guys? Do you hope one of them gets out of jail because of your opinion? No offense, but what is the point of all of it if you don't mind me asking?

Because I'm interested in it and want to expose different truths. No glory-seeking. Straight out truth-seeking.

But the "truth" is only your opinion and from what I have read, your opinion goes against a jury of 12 peers who found these guys guilty of a least one or more counts for which they were indicted. So, the jury's "truth" overrides your "truth" and you 're back to square one. It's a no win situation for you. But good luck with it if it makes you happy.

MafiaStudent is backing everything up with court records, transcripts and records, plus interviews, it isn't like she is just taking guesses. It's not her truth, it's the truth.