Most Questionable Makings

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Also Pogo

That's a great tidbit.

I feel like many of the smaller families were filled with bad inductees as their pools shrank far faster than the larger cities.
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Targenmantarian wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:47 pm Pogo

True or false that the Genovese yanked Pittsburgh's charter to make over some of their suspect inductions that resulted in the family being crippled in the early 90s.

I recall reading that a long time ago but I don't remember where or if is accurate.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:52 pm
Targenmantarian wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:47 pm Pogo

True or false that the Genovese yanked Pittsburgh's charter to make over some of their suspect inductions that resulted in the family being crippled in the early 90s.

I recall reading that a long time ago but I don't remember where or if is accurate.


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They def never made anyone after that. And the poop still existed. Maybe one or two snuck in. But family essentially died after that.

Not that they couldnt have disobeyed. But even ten years later no one cared. It had all folded.
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An inmate named Louis Ferrini interrupted a Trenton prison "making ceremony" in 1956 being conducted by Vincenzo Piazza. He was inducting Ralph Rosania, who was part of the murder-robbery case with Silvio DeVita, and George Insinnia was also present. Ferrini observed a picture of a saint, a burning candle, and that Rosania had his finger pricked.

Rosania died in 2012 and Insinnia in 2000, both still in North Jersey, and to my knowledge neither has ever been identified as a made member of any family. Rosania's obituary page shows a comment from one of the Campisi daughters, whose father was with the Genovese family. Given that Rosania associated with DeVita, it's possible he was associated in some way with the Genovese but there are no indications he was involved in mafia activity after his release from prison.

Piazza was an old time Sicilian with a murderous reputation. His affiliation has never been made clear, though he was described as running an "organization" in the state prison in Trenton and may have inducted the above "members" unofficially. However, it's funny that the books were open at the time.
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Adam, great insight on Detroit LCN as always.

My nomination is Carlo Bommarito. Got made in '95 because of being Frank the Bomb's kid. Became an embarrassment and was a drug addict, and if you believe some, a rat. Billy Giacalone ordered him "hot dosed" in 2007, Frank the Bomb signed off on his own kid's murder. That's some coldblooded shit.

The first time I met the Bomb was about a year, year and a half after Carlo died. I didn't realize the situation at play and one of the first things out of my mouth was something like "My sympathies on losing Carlo," and he barked back "That motherfucker got what he deserved!" True story.

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scott22 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:09 pm Adam, great insight on Detroit LCN as always.

My nomination is Carlo Bommarito. Got made in '95 because of being Frank the Bomb's kid. Became an embarrassment and was a drug addict, and if you believe some, a rat. Billy Giacalone ordered him "hot dosed" in 2007, Frank the Bomb signed off on his own kid's murder. That's some coldblooded shit.

The first time I met the Bomb was about a year, year and a half after Carlo died. I didn't realize the situation at play and one of the first things out of my mouth was something like "My sympathies on losing Carlo," and he barked back "That motherfucker got what he deserved!" True story.

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No family has more nepostistic policies that Det. It's saved em before and has allowed them in my opinion to be the miracle of the modern mob wherein they've transitioned to a place where almost none of them get jammed for violent crimes and many earn millions off white collar pursuits.

But that nepostism also backfires in spectacular fashion. Nove Tocco and him.

Other families have had it worse.
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Was Larry Mazza really made? I'm his book he says he was recognized as a made guy but no mention of a formal induction.
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IrishDave wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:59 pm Was Larry Mazza really made? I'm his book he says he was recognized as a made guy but no mention of a formal induction.
I have no idea.

But I can see him being a decent wartime making. He's like Veasy but all Italian. At that point they needed shooters. Especially Carmine's side.
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Targenmantarian wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:45 pm
But I can see him being a decent wartime making. He's like Veasy but all Italian. At that point they needed shooters. Especially Carmine's side.
I agree that he was a decent choice. But with out a formal induction it becomes the same argument that's given about Ron Previtti or even Delmonti out of Cleveland.
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He wasn't made.


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Ralph Deleo was a very questionable making. It blows my mind he was even promoted to acting boss.
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slimshady_007 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:46 am Ralph Deleo was a very questionable making. It blows my mind he was even promoted to acting boss.
Yea , That was more than questionable . Head scratcher .And the guy was a 🐀 Rat and the reason he didn't end up doing 20 plus years , Maybe life ? And they're running around chauffeuring him everywhere , Holding doors , Taking his coat , Putting his coat on , Pulling out chairs and acting like fools like the guy was the literal Godfather lmfaooo ...Guy had a publicist and assistants ! All because the Persicos need to desperately hold on to power somehow by whatever means necessary ,Even If it means making and promoting an unknown non New Yorker Snitch , Hilarious ! The guy was in disbelief having the time of his life . What was funny too was this guy had cross country operations and was one of the most active and biggest Colombo earners at the time with political connections and Corruption going on . What did he get caught with ? Kilos of Coke/Drugs , Cash , Money laundering , A literal Arsenal of weapons and ammunition etc etc... SMH lol.....
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Al D'arco. He was struggling to get made, and a few people said they did not thing he should be accepted, they inducted him anyway. One wiseguy referred to him as nothing more than an "Ice Cream man" referring to his store that he owned.
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Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:02 am
slimshady_007 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:46 am Ralph Deleo was a very questionable making. It blows my mind he was even promoted to acting boss.
The guy was in disbelief having the time of his life .
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bert wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:57 pm Al D'arco. He was struggling to get made, and a few people said they did not thing he should be accepted, they inducted him anyway. One wiseguy referred to him as nothing more than an "Ice Cream man" referring to his store that he owned.
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