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Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


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This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
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Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
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Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm advocating for Crea WHO IS INNOCENT. Locascio is interesting. Gioeli...I have no idea about him..I just happened to be in Pacer and looked to see what was there and downloaded it for the good of the board. And DiNapoli should be on home confinement until Covid is over. As far as RICO - against it unless they make changes as per my other comments above.
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mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm
Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm advocating for Crea WHO IS INNOCENT. Locascio is interesting. Gioeli...I have no idea about him..I just happened to be in Pacer and looked to see what was there and downloaded it for the good of the board. And DiNapoli should be on home confinement until Covid is over. As far as RICO - against it unless they make changes as per my other comments above.
Gonna go off topic but I have agreed on Crea and Madonna do you agree that they actually did have some evidence on londiono and Caldwell? Did it come out at trial
About what I heard londonio car was on the scene and they had Caldwell dna? I read that in gangland. Anyone who doesn’t believe the only “witness” to tie Crea to the murder is full of shit is delusional in my opinion
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It wasn't directed at you, it was in general.

But if you're advocating for Steve Crea than it is at you. I don't care if he's accused of one thing he didn't commit, he got away with 100 other things and in doing so caught the attention of the FBI. Like I said, "even a clock's that's wrong is right twice a day." It's how law enforcement works, Al Capone was gotten on tax evasion, no one back then ever argued that not paying taxes was anti-Italian discrimination. Meanwhile, LEGITIMATE Italians never had these problems. They may have faced some scrutiny but overcame it because they had nothing to hide. Here's a fact, the whole "mafioso is a way of life" BS allows these assholes to hide within Sicilian culture when, if Sicilian culture reflected "avenging everyone who wronged you" none of us would have made it past puberty. It's a disrespect on Sicilians to argue that Mafia culture is Sicilian culture. it's not "a way of life" they are just assholes who seek capitalization over everyone else at the expense of anyone not them and theirs. Advocating for that is a losing and taciturn argument.
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You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy :mrgreen:
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@CC “even a broken clock...”

Clock that’s wrong?


Smh Chris. Let the team down buddy.
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Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:16 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm
Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm advocating for Crea WHO IS INNOCENT. Locascio is interesting. Gioeli...I have no idea about him..I just happened to be in Pacer and looked to see what was there and downloaded it for the good of the board. And DiNapoli should be on home confinement until Covid is over. As far as RICO - against it unless they make changes as per my other comments above.
Gonna go off topic but I have agreed on Crea and Madonna do you agree that they actually did have some evidence on londiono and Caldwell? Did it come out at trial
About what I heard londonio car was on the scene and they had Caldwell dna? I read that in gangland. Anyone who doesn’t believe the only “witness” to tie Crea to the murder is full of shit is delusional in my opinion
I didn't really get into a LOT of the Caldwell part except that there was some questionable things regarding the NYPD when he was brought in for questioning. He wasn't given his Miranda rights...it was a whole mess. But I didn't really delve into it.

As far as the car, I didn't go into that that much either, but I do know there was some issues about the car as well. I was just focused on Crea and his evidence and how that tied into Londonio....but still...Londonio talked to wiredup guys - Pasqua - and never confessed like he did with Evangelista who wasn't wired. And he talked with Pasqua numerous, numerous times. Plus, Londonio's parents live in the area where Meldish was found..so for him NOT to be around that area (and again I didn't get into the whole car thing) isn't unreasonable. They based that evidence on cameras. And plus again the whole Pasqua thing who was supposedly there too that night which he never said he and his father DIDN"T meet Meldish.

Also, Caldwell was a friend of Meldish and actually lived with him at one point and was with him often...so of course there's going to be DNA in his car. I think he even used Meldish's car lots of times.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:21 pm You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy :mrgreen:
It IS Bizarro SonnyBlackstein...but I like the way you think...and you're absolutely 100 percent correct. Prove it with evidence and if it's there then they do the time. But don't make stuff up.

Only thing I disagree on is DiNapoli.
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mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:22 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:16 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm
Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm advocating for Crea WHO IS INNOCENT. Locascio is interesting. Gioeli...I have no idea about him..I just happened to be in Pacer and looked to see what was there and downloaded it for the good of the board. And DiNapoli should be on home confinement until Covid is over. As far as RICO - against it unless they make changes as per my other comments above.
Gonna go off topic but I have agreed on Crea and Madonna do you agree that they actually did have some evidence on londiono and Caldwell? Did it come out at trial
About what I heard londonio car was on the scene and they had Caldwell dna? I read that in gangland. Anyone who doesn’t believe the only “witness” to tie Crea to the murder is full of shit is delusional in my opinion
I didn't really get into a LOT of the Caldwell part except that there was some questionable things regarding the NYPD when he was brought in for questioning. He wasn't given his Miranda rights...it was a whole mess. But I didn't really delve into it.

As far as the car, I didn't go into that that much either, but I do know there was some issues about the car as well. I was just focused on Crea and his evidence and how that tied into Londonio....but still...Londonio talked to wiredup guys - Pasqua - and never confessed like he did with Evangelista who wasn't wired. And he talked with Pasqua numerous, numerous times. Plus, Londonio's parents live in the area where Meldish was found..so for him NOT to be around that area (and again I didn't get into the whole car thing) isn't unreasonable. They based that evidence on cameras. And plus again the whole Pasqua thing who was supposedly there too that night which he never said he and his father DIDN"T meet Meldish.

Also, Caldwell was a friend of Meldish and actually lived with him at one point and was with him often...so of course there's going to be DNA in his car. I think he even used Meldish's car lots of times.
Ok just wanted to clarify because I thought in a previous post you said there was no evidence on them but I thought the car on the scene was a pretty big piece of evidence in regards to londonio
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Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:30 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:22 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:16 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm
Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Pete wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:34 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:05 pm Yeah sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. But here is my contribution.


The Gambino family is a wholly criminal organization that regularly commits murder as part of its very existence. When the head of that criminal organization is talking to his number 2 man about the criminal activities of their organization including a murder that their criminal organization is going to commit than LoCascio is just as guilty of that murder as Gotti. It is irrelevant that said number 2 may not have uttered a word at that very moment. His guilt is implicit by his membership and position of authority in said criminal organization and his presence when the murder plot is being formulated.


And this is not even getting into all the other murders LoCascio has no doubt taken part in his 40 years of LCN involvement. Including his 3 years in the administration of the Gambino family when, what, at least half a dozen murders were committed by the organization he was a leader in. But yeah poor baby that he is in prison. It is an injustice. :roll:


Pogo
This is a classic ends justify the means. The feds have been jerking him off on the tapes for years but as you said with all the other murders he’s done he’s still where she should be
Pogo, you're too biased. Why can't you understand it's some neighborhood guys just doing some small time gambling and book, no big deal. You got chinks, you got the Dominicans, you've got the Asians, the Russians, the Colombians and Jamaicans mowing people down with AK-47's, leave the Italians alone, goddammit!"

There's issues with the legal system no two ways about it. But when it comes to career criminals, to quote Tony Soprano- "even a clock that's wrong is right twice a day." I could understand public idolization of a say, Bonnie and Clyde, but career fucking criminals? To advocate for them means they've never been in a situation where their family business was extorted, or their gambling addicted relative got taken to the vultures, or working hard on a job while a few assholes sat around and collected a union wage, or had a friend hitting on a woman who was an ex of some fucking asshole and had to get facial reconstructive surgery over a beer bottle smashed against his head just for dancing with her.

You want to advocate for injustices within the criminal justice system I say go to fuckin town. But if your starting point is defending "the likes of" Frank LoCascio, Bitch Tits Gieoli (or however you spell the fuckin name), your starting at a point of sympathizing for mobsters and working your way backward to justify it by connecting it to the injustices of the criminal justice system. Sorry but it's obvious.

What's the alterntive? Eradicate RICO and go back to a retro 1960's law enforcement model? Fuck that and fuck them.
I hope this wasn't directed at me. I'm advocating for Crea WHO IS INNOCENT. Locascio is interesting. Gioeli...I have no idea about him..I just happened to be in Pacer and looked to see what was there and downloaded it for the good of the board. And DiNapoli should be on home confinement until Covid is over. As far as RICO - against it unless they make changes as per my other comments above.
Gonna go off topic but I have agreed on Crea and Madonna do you agree that they actually did have some evidence on londiono and Caldwell? Did it come out at trial
About what I heard londonio car was on the scene and they had Caldwell dna? I read that in gangland. Anyone who doesn’t believe the only “witness” to tie Crea to the murder is full of shit is delusional in my opinion
I didn't really get into a LOT of the Caldwell part except that there was some questionable things regarding the NYPD when he was brought in for questioning. He wasn't given his Miranda rights...it was a whole mess. But I didn't really delve into it.

As far as the car, I didn't go into that that much either, but I do know there was some issues about the car as well. I was just focused on Crea and his evidence and how that tied into Londonio....but still...Londonio talked to wiredup guys - Pasqua - and never confessed like he did with Evangelista who wasn't wired. And he talked with Pasqua numerous, numerous times. Plus, Londonio's parents live in the area where Meldish was found..so for him NOT to be around that area (and again I didn't get into the whole car thing) isn't unreasonable. They based that evidence on cameras. And plus again the whole Pasqua thing who was supposedly there too that night which he never said he and his father DIDN"T meet Meldish.

Also, Caldwell was a friend of Meldish and actually lived with him at one point and was with him often...so of course there's going to be DNA in his car. I think he even used Meldish's car lots of times.
Ok just wanted to clarify because I thought in a previous post you said there was no evidence on them but I thought the car on the scene was a pretty big piece of evidence in regards to londonio
Caldwell, no. Other than what I mentioned. I think I meant that in general based on my review was that they probably are all innocent because it was shady from beginning to end. And I'm talking Meldish...for Crea definitely Coddington because he was acquitted. The construction stuff I didn't get too much into that either tho I did briefly look at some testimony and I don't know. Londonio, I would say is 99.9 percent chance he's innocent.
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Re: Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:21 pm You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy :mrgreen:
If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.
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Re: Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

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Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:50 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:21 pm You can’t put people away because you don’t like them. It’s as simple as that. The system HAS to let bad guys go on technicalities, bad prosecutions, false evidence etc etc because that is the exception to the rule. And the rule is, innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
You start making that rule optional or subjective and it’s over. Why? Because the rule that protects them, is the rule that protects you. You still want that rule to be subjective when it’s your ass? Different song you’re singing then eh..


My opinion Crea/Madonna, Locascio and Yup, even Persico shouldn’t have been imprisoned (ON THOSE SPECIFIC CHARGES). ‘Should’ they be in prison? Of course. SHOULD they be in prison? Nope.
That fat fuck DiNapoli however, fuck that guy :mrgreen:
If I fuck 100 underage children in my area but can't be convicted for this reason or that reason but then I get arrested for illegal housing of a minor whom "I was caring only caring for, what's the harm, eh?" are you going to advocate for me? Am I an innocent guy who simply just wanted to help a young child out? Should we overlook my previous 100 other allegations and attribute it to some "way of life" or "Anti-Italian American discrimination" of me who just likes to be around kids? Would you allow me around your kid? Probably not.

There's people that don't belong on the sexual registry and if you wanted to make that case, would I be patient fuckin zero for law enforcement discrimination? Probably not.
Eugene Gold Brooklyn District attorney - when he was 59 years old - he's the Gold Bug guy ala Vario - he went to a district attorney's conference in Tennessee in 1983...starting hitting on a 10-year old girl on a bus and then later when her parents weren't in the room...he went to her room and molested her. She made her 9 and 10 year old friends HIDE IN THE CLOSET. You know what he got???? PROBATION for aggravated rape. Here's the quote after he got probation:

“I am very very relieved to have this behind me,’ Gold said as he and his wife Ronnie left the Metro Courthouse hand-in-hand. ‘I’ve had a very very bright and wonderful past. I am looking forward to having the same kind of future.’” ~ Brooklyn District Attorney Eugene Gold of the infamous Paul Vario “Gold Bug” after being released on probation for molesting a 10-year old girl during a Conference for District Attorneys in Tennessee in 1983. He was 59 at the time and charged with aggravated rape.

AND he's not the only government official
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Re: Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

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Chris Christie wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:19 pm It wasn't directed at you, it was in general.

But if you're advocating for Steve Crea than it is at you. I don't care if he's accused of one thing he didn't commit, he got away with 100 other things and in doing so caught the attention of the FBI. Like I said, "even a clock's that's wrong is right twice a day." It's how law enforcement works, Al Capone was gotten on tax evasion, no one back then ever argued that not paying taxes was anti-Italian discrimination. Meanwhile, LEGITIMATE Italians never had these problems. They may have faced some scrutiny but overcame it because they had nothing to hide. Here's a fact, the whole "mafioso is a way of life" BS allows these assholes to hide within Sicilian culture when, if Sicilian culture reflected "avenging everyone who wronged you" none of us would have made it past puberty. It's a disrespect on Sicilians to argue that Mafia culture is Sicilian culture. it's not "a way of life" they are just assholes who seek capitalization over everyone else at the expense of anyone not them and theirs. Advocating for that is a losing and taciturn argument.
You have no idea if he got away with other things. If there is no proof he is innocent. As for Sicilian culture, is Crea even Sicilian?
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