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I've read different a few different versions of the Siegel hit. One has Chicago as the ones who insisted on the hit. Another interesting one had More Dalitz putting the hit on Siegel, because Dalitz still loved Virginia Hill.
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because Dalitz loved Hill ?? I think that's pretty far fetched... but boy did she get around.

under gus Alex escort service, Joey Adonis, Siegel, and then someone from the outfit after.
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Villain wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 7:20 am We dont know that for sure, after all one of the guys who took over the Flamingo right after Sieges murder was Outfit associate Gus Greenbaum, so this means that the Chi crowd might've previously invested in the same joint

So it was Gus Greenbaum WITH a Lansky associates??

That's a interesting connection there... I'm sure chi has a lot more connections then we know about w Ny
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 12:49 pm
Villain wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 7:20 am We dont know that for sure, after all one of the guys who took over the Flamingo right after Sieges murder was Outfit associate Gus Greenbaum, so this means that the Chi crowd might've previously invested in the same joint

So it was Gus Greenbaum WITH a Lansky associates??

That's a interesting connection there... I'm sure chi has a lot more connections then we know about w Ny
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Joe Bonanno wrote there was official commision meetings every 6 years. I think it was 6?? or maybe 5 but the years were just a odd number bc he made the years chapters in his book. he.never talked about Chicago taking part as much as NYC. even in the beginning.

i do remmember the story where Lucchese supposedly had to beg Bonanno for his life at the mercy of Albert Anastasia.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 12:43 pm because Dalitz loved Hill ?? I think that's pretty far fetched... but boy did she get around.

under gus Alex escort service, Joey Adonis, Siegel, and then someone from the outfit after.
Yes she did get around. Didn't Lanskey's daughter state that Siegel was killed for disrespecting Lucky Luciano? I believe she wrote a book and said her dad told her that.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pm he.never talked about Chicago taking part as much as NYC. even in the beginning.
Bonanno didnt get along with Giancana and as a matter of fact, according to several wiretaps Giancana pushed for Bonannos murder and even Accardo shared the same opinion previous of that. Story goes that Ricca was the one who allegedly kept the peace and theres one convo from him in which he understood some of Bonannos actions except for the one where he refused to explain himself in front of the commission. Maybe im wrong but I think that Bill was also the one who confirmed this story, meaning Ricca accepted a meeting with them and later cancelled the contract on the Bonanno fam. I also remember something like Bill being very impressed from Riccas style of handling things and labeled him a true Don.
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Villain wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 1:51 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pm he.never talked about Chicago taking part as much as NYC. even in the beginning.
Bonanno didnt get along with Giancana and as a matter of fact, according to several wiretaps Giancana pushed for Bonannos murder and even Accardo shared the same opinion previous of that. Story goes that Ricca was the one who allegedly kept the peace and theres one convo from him in which he understood some of Bonannos actions except for the one where he refused to explain himself in front of the commission. Maybe im wrong but I think that Bill was also the one who confirmed this story, meaning Ricca accepted a meeting with them and later cancelled the contract on the Bonanno fam. I also remember something like Bill being very impressed from Riccas style of handling things and labeled him a true Don.
Bill Bonnano was impressed with Paul Ricca because Ricca basically HELPED save his father's life. Arizona was open territory but it was out West and Giancana hated Bonnano for going there in the first place from what I read. Ricca basically overuled Giancana pushing for Bonnano's assasination. Joe Bonano was NOT a popular figure in New York or Chicago. LOL
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Villain wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 1:51 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pm he.never talked about Chicago taking part as much as NYC. even in the beginning.
Bonanno didnt get along with Giancana and as a matter of fact, according to several wiretaps Giancana pushed for Bonannos murder and even Accardo shared the same opinion previous of that. Story goes that Ricca was the one who allegedly kept the peace and theres one convo from him in which he understood some of Bonannos actions except for the one where he refused to explain himself in front of the commission. Maybe im wrong but I think that Bill was also the one who confirmed this story, meaning Ricca accepted a meeting with them and later cancelled the contract on the Bonanno fam. I also remember something like Bill being very impressed from Riccas style of handling things and labeled him a true Don.
What is the time period of this info. The hit on the Bonannos would be between the Bonanno plot and Giancana loosing his position as boss. Accardo wanted Bonanno whacked pre 1957??
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Frank wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 8:28 am
Villain wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 1:51 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 pm he.never talked about Chicago taking part as much as NYC. even in the beginning.
Bonanno didnt get along with Giancana and as a matter of fact, according to several wiretaps Giancana pushed for Bonannos murder and even Accardo shared the same opinion previous of that. Story goes that Ricca was the one who allegedly kept the peace and theres one convo from him in which he understood some of Bonannos actions except for the one where he refused to explain himself in front of the commission. Maybe im wrong but I think that Bill was also the one who confirmed this story, meaning Ricca accepted a meeting with them and later cancelled the contract on the Bonanno fam. I also remember something like Bill being very impressed from Riccas style of handling things and labeled him a true Don.
What is the time period of this info. The hit on the Bonannos would be between the Bonanno plot and Giancana loosing his position as boss. Accardo wanted Bonanno whacked pre 1957??
I meant previous of the Bonanno conflict such as the late 50s

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I think Hill was actually from Alabama. She definitely got around and was definitely a hooker at various points in her life.
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