Original Gangsters podcast w/ Tim White (Feb 21)

[Tonyd621]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

They said in between the 2 states. So maybe it was where he lived not where he grew up. But I do know they said the neighborhood he grew up was mixed so from my understanding it wasn't.a typical mobbed up neighborhood back then, but I'm sure it wasn't free from it either

Mobbed up as in LCN? No Roxbury was not compared to other sections. But there was plenty of OC and fringe groups. Wimpy Bennet's outfit was based out of Roxbury, which is where Stevie and Frank got their start. Roxbury was mixed back then between black and white, now is mostly black area.

Yeah it wasn't mobbed up as in LCN what I meant. More over also why his trusted sidekicks were Richie devlin and gillis-irish guys

what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?

I don't know

[JakeTheSnake630]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

They said in between the 2 states. So maybe it was where he lived not where he grew up. But I do know they said the neighborhood he grew up was mixed so from my understanding it wasn't.a typical mobbed up neighborhood back then, but I'm sure it wasn't free from it either

Mobbed up as in LCN? No Roxbury was not compared to other sections. But there was plenty of OC and fringe groups. Wimpy Bennet's outfit was based out of Roxbury, which is where Stevie and Frank got their start. Roxbury was mixed back then between black and white, now is mostly black area.

Yeah it wasn't mobbed up as in LCN what I meant. More over also why his trusted sidekicks were Richie devlin and gillis-irish guys

I think he got close with them in Walpole. Devlin at least, he served a bunch of time there as did Frank. Not sure where Devlin or Gillis grew up. Devlin is the one who killed the Boston strangler in prison.

[JakeTheSnake630]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

They said in between the 2 states. So maybe it was where he lived not where he grew up. But I do know they said the neighborhood he grew up was mixed so from my understanding it wasn't.a typical mobbed up neighborhood back then, but I'm sure it wasn't free from it either

Mobbed up as in LCN? No Roxbury was not compared to other sections. But there was plenty of OC and fringe groups. Wimpy Bennet's outfit was based out of Roxbury, which is where Stevie and Frank got their start. Roxbury was mixed back then between black and white, now is mostly black area.

Yeah it wasn't mobbed up as in LCN what I meant. More over also why his trusted sidekicks were Richie devlin and gillis-irish guys

what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?

I don't know

Pretty sure hes dead

[JakeTheSnake630]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

was Salemme a childhood friend of the Flemmi brothers?

Yes they were. At least Stevie, not sure about the Bear or Michael.

[mike68]

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what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?
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I don't know
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Pretty sure hes dead
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He's alive and active on Facebook, in that New England Organized Crime page last I checked.

[davidf1989]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

was Salemme a childhood friend of the Flemmi brothers?

Yes they were. At least Stevie, not sure about the Bear or Michael.

Thanks Jake and was Larry baione zannino from the Roxbury area?

[JakeTheSnake630]

Frank grew up in Roxbury not Sharon. He bought a house there when he got older, but def did not grow up there. Thats how he and Flemmi were so close they both grew up in Roxbury. Almost certain Salemme went to JP High when that was still a school.

was Salemme a childhood friend of the Flemmi brothers?

Yes they were. At least Stevie, not sure about the Bear or Michael.

Thanks Jake and was Larry baione zannino from the Roxbury area?

I want to say Larry was originally from the South End, but then moved to Franklin MA. I know he graduated from Franklin High School. His yearbook picture is out there.

[davidf1989]

Was Timmons killed at Salemme's house in Sharon by Larry Baione and others? I think that his death was mentioned in Salemme's trial

[Tonyd621]

what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?
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I don't know
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Pretty sure hes dead
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He's alive and active on Facebook, in that New England Organized Crime page last I checked.
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Lol ask me again if Richard Gillis is still alive

[davidf1989]

was Frank Salemme Jr a made guy or a Mafia associate? I think that there were photos of him at the Lancaster street Garage.

[davidf1989]

what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?

I don't know
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Pretty sure hes dead
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He's alive and active on Facebook, in that New England Organized Crime page last I checked.
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Lol ask me again if Richard Gillis is still alive
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Thanks for your message and was Gillis close to the Rossettis?

[Tonyd621]

what happened to Richard Gillis and is he still alive?

I don't know

Pretty sure hes dead
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He's alive and active on Facebook, in that New England Organized Crime page last I checked.
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Lol ask me again if Richard Gillis is still alive
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Thanks for your message and was Gillis close to the Rossettis?
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"He's alive and active on Facebook last time I checked"

[davidf1989]

They also stated how it was basically a race to rat first in the 90s and how Frank Salemme didn't give up Bobby DeLuca in the disarro hit (I believe it was) but DeLuca gave up Salemme. Salemme was pist when he found out Bulger was an informant and seemed to allude to that was one of the reasons why Salemme rolled.
Also, rumored of a state grand jury on the Hanarahan hit. Tim White said how popular that downtown spot was in that area where Hanrahan got hit and says there had to be witnesses but no one has come forward yet.

According to this article, https://gangsterreport.com/once-upon-a- ... r-sources/ Hanrahan was a suspect in a murder and had the contract to kill Salemme and Manocchio from Patriarca Jr.

[Pmac2]

I mean if lato and Matt g are ok with letting there lcn legacy die then it over but my guess theses old guys lived there whole life for want it to continue even though it has almost 0 prestige it did when they got made. No one gives a shit but a small community of criminals and semi criminals. It also wouldn't surprise me if those 2 guy proposed a handful of guys in the last few years.

[JoeCamel]

Tim white while talking to col. Steve ODonnell has said before that Albie Focarelli was indeed made And O’Donnell didn’t refute it