Skinny Ted

[SonnyBlackstein]

Whether he takes that option of course is highly speculative.

[gohnjotti]

Michaels utility, and to some degree the associated power, was in his legitimacy. With the loss of that legitimacy, I think he’s lost his utility. So will he accept that, or attempt to retain power and influence, which would leave the only door open to doing so, in gaining membership.
IMO.

I disagree with you on that one. Michael Persico was very useful as an emissary, indeed, but he was a lot more than that. From what I've seen, he has always been treated as an equal player in the highest levels of the Colombo administration, not purely because of his surname. He has a keen business acumen: he runs the Persico wealth, and he has his own large-scale loansharking operation. He also mediates disputes down to the street level, between soldiers and captains and associates alike. In the 1980s and 1990s, associates may have gone to Michael so he could pass on their messages to Carmine or Allie. But by the 21st century, with all the truth and connections he had developed, Michael became a mediator in his own right. He attended high-level sitdowns and, in many cases, it looks like he had the final say. In his 2010 case, Teddy Persico Jr. - a ruling panel member - did not seek permission from Michael for hits because Michael was going to pass those over to Carmine or Allie. Instead, at least they way it's portrayed in court papers, it looks like Michael had the final say on whether or not a hit went down.

We see that more so when we look at the ins and outs of the 2010 construction case with Teddy Jr. Essentially, it's a case involving various Colombos working together to shake down a Boston-based company, but it's clear that people went to Michael for approval. I guess, in a way, Michael was seen as the brains of the Persico regime. He was not merely an emissary. A lot of important decisions made by Michael Persico were not passed by Carmine and Allie first.

[gohnjotti]

I guess we also need to look at what a person benefits from an induction. I don't see Michael Persico benefiting in any way. The Persico surname holds just as much weight in 2010 (when Michael was rubbing shoulders and calling the shots on the family's ruling panel) as it does in 2020. There is still a Persico at the top, and Carmine Persico still had a hardcore following at the time of his death, as evidenced by every crew in the Colombos sending a representative to his funeral in March 2019.

You can make the argument about whether or not a crime family is legitimate if an associate is helping to call the shots, but I don't think this is important enough to call the family's legitimacy into question. Perhaps, down the road, a member from another crime family might refuse to give Michael the proper respect of a made guy, and perhaps there will be an altercation down the road that calls Michael's legitimacy into question. That would be the only occasion where I can see Michael considering getting an induction into the crime family. But before it comes to that, Michael still has the rest of the Colombos to represent him in any sit-down if need be. I mean, Skinny Teddy is in a halfway house already. Nobody would fuck with Michael Persico knowing that Michael is the only person keeping a leash on his cousin Teddy.

[chin_gigante]

Surprised by how little we've heard about the Colombo admin in recent years compared to the other families

[AntComello]

The Colombos IMO really are the most interesting family coming into 2020. A lot of big names hitting the streets. Something is bound to happen

[CornerBoy]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

Danny is dead

[Etna]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

Danny is dead

I know. You missed were Pogo also responded.

[Dr031718]

Have there been any full length write ups on Michael?

[stubbs]

I agree with Gohn, Michael isn’t an associate in the traditional sense. He’s the son of the recently deceased boss, brother of the likely current boss, and he’s related to virtually everyone else in power.

He doesn’t need a button, all that would do is make it more likely he gets locked up with a long prison sentence due to Rico. If he stays an associate his lawyers can say, “He’s not made” to a jury and hope he gets a slap on the wrist.

This is like some shit the Genovese would do.

[Etna]

So I'm not familiar with what a prisoner can do in a halfway house. Can these guys leave and go out to the public?

[moneyman]

On Kenji Gallo's blog he talks about how when Teddy was released from a 17-year prison sentence in 2004 he immediately wanted to kill someone. "He told me that he needed to leave a body on the street so people knew he was back"

http://breakshotblog.blogspot.com/2010/ ... co-jr.html

Wasn't Kenji a poster on RD? It would be cool to have him on here and hear his thoughts on Teddy's recent release.

[gohnjotti]

So I'm not familiar with what a prisoner can do in a halfway house. Can these guys leave and go out to the public?

They can be out during the day time, but I believe they need to have employment.

[Pete]

I guess we also need to look at what a person benefits from an induction. I don't see Michael Persico benefiting in any way. The Persico surname holds just as much weight in 2010 (when Michael was rubbing shoulders and calling the shots on the family's ruling panel) as it does in 2020. There is still a Persico at the top, and Carmine Persico still had a hardcore following at the time of his death, as evidenced by every crew in the Colombos sending a representative to his funeral in March 2019.

You can make the argument about whether or not a crime family is legitimate if an associate is helping to call the shots, but I don't think this is important enough to call the family's legitimacy into question. Perhaps, down the road, a member from another crime family might refuse to give Michael the proper respect of a made guy, and perhaps there will be an altercation down the road that calls Michael's legitimacy into question. That would be the only occasion where I can see Michael considering getting an induction into the crime family. But before it comes to that, Michael still has the rest of the Colombos to represent him in any sit-down if need be. I mean, Skinny Teddy is in a halfway house already. Nobody would fuck with Michael Persico knowing that Michael is the only person keeping a leash on his cousin Teddy.

Michael is too smart to get straightened out. If he hasn’t after all these years he sure as hell won’t be after going to jail. I thought it was his father who specifically didn’t want him made. I always thought that interesting about the chin how he didn’t want his kids in the life and wouldn’t straighten out Andrew but Vincent got made.

[roydemeo]

But wont be more easy if Teddy become the real boss and allie boy a sort of front boss? Like Tony Salerno for Chin Gigante.

[Targenmantarian]

So I'm not familiar with what a prisoner can do in a halfway house. Can these guys leave and go out to the public?

They can be out during the day time, but I believe they need to have employment.

In about 90 days if he doesn't get in trouble they will send him to his house with confinement and check ins.