Thank you for the correctionDr031718 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:28 amThat was said about Johnny Palazolo not BadalamentiLittle_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:20 am Someone who testified said that had Badalamenti continued running the family, everyone would have walked away
Wondering how this guy is one of Mancuso’s top advisors or he just wasn’t boss material.
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That was about PalazzoloLittle_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:20 am Someone who testified said that had Badalamenti continued running the family, everyone would have walked away
Wondering how this guy is one of Mancuso’s top advisors or he just wasn’t boss material.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9153- Cammarano believed if Palazzolo was allowed to continue as Acting Boss for another four to six months, the Family would have disbanded, and everyone would have walked away
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Lol to be fair that fell into my lap when I first made this account and looking back it wasn’t one of my best moments also at that time in life I was on a lotttt of Percocets. But been clean almost 2 years (not that anyone cares)…. But yea I’ll take that bet I have PayPal.Cheech wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:35 pmYou still pretending to be Commellos cousin or is that schtick over?AntComello wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:00 pm Damn you guys really have a hard on for Scott. I wouldn’t be surprised if everything he’s saying is true. The house shooting, fire bomb and now Jonny Joe jr as a capo. It’s really not that far fetched. Any one wanna $20 on this info being true or false? I’ll bet that at least 2 of those 3 things will turn out to be true. Any takers? I’ll cash app it when we find out
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fuck it let’s do itTonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:45 pmI'll take that bet. Cash only. Double it to 40. Make it interesting. I bet only 1 is true.AntComello wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:00 pm Damn you guys really have a hard on for Scott. I wouldn’t be surprised if everything he’s saying is true. The house shooting, fire bomb and now Jonny Joe jr as a capo. It’s really not that far fetched. Any one wanna $20 on this info being true or false? I’ll bet that at least 2 of those 3 things will turn out to be true. Any takers? I’ll cash app it when we find out
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Badalamenti is the real deal, lots of friends and very respected. The top Bonanno in Brooklyn and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Scott’s right about him being the Consigliere.Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:20 am Wondering how this guy is one of Mancuso’s top advisors or he just wasn’t boss material.
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I'll repeat, if it's Detroit, I do believe Scott seeks information from both sides. But as the Little Al D'Arco stories demonstrate, he's the new FBI stooge. Scott would have had to obtain court transcripts to know of unsolved murders not in the indictment (pre-trial, etc.). So obviously, someone is feeding him information. Since there's no Gatto crew remaining, you figure it.B. wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:29 pm Let me add, obviously Scott has put himself in a position to be criticized and his approach to this subject always brings that out. I'm not part of a cabal of researchers with any investment in Scott's coverage of current mafia events and I believe people should question him when they feel it's appropriate and have done the same myself.
However, I do know these rumors have roots apart from Scott's article and people were aware of them independently prior to his articles. Not just the "comeback" shirt (which is confirmed) but also the rumors of a serious dispute taking place involving these people and violence is in the air, some of these rumors actually being similar to what Johnny found with the Glen Cove shooting before he discovered it (shooting, property damage).
If it's true, it's not terribly surprising on its own given Cammarano told Lovaglio in 2016 the issues with the Mancuso faction could have become violent if Palazzolo hadn't gone to prison and Carrube said Bonanno members had to sit outside of Allie DiPilato's restaurant with guns in 2017 because of the Cammarano-Mancuso conflict. The "surreal funeral home melee" shows this came to a head last year now that Mancuso is on the street and we know Mancuso is a spiteful, violent person who has been trying to secure dominance over the Bonanno Family since Massino flipped and Basciano went to prison. Cammarano staged a "coup" to depose Mancuso and the funeral incident shows Mancuso was looking to hurt Cammarano personally and physically even recently.
Scott's coverage is sensationalistic, no question, but he didn't invent the basic rumors going on right now. I'm not convinced the rumors are 100% factual because I have no inside track and know things can get distorted. Scott chose to cover this story and do so in a certain way but he didn't create the basic rumors themselves. If they end up being untrue, partially true, or completely true it makes no difference to me personally but it's interesting for sure.
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Ok, if I lose pm me an address to the send money and vice versaAntComello wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:37 amfuck it let’s do itTonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:45 pmI'll take that bet. Cash only. Double it to 40. Make it interesting. I bet only 1 is true.AntComello wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:00 pm Damn you guys really have a hard on for Scott. I wouldn’t be surprised if everything he’s saying is true. The house shooting, fire bomb and now Jonny Joe jr as a capo. It’s really not that far fetched. Any one wanna $20 on this info being true or false? I’ll bet that at least 2 of those 3 things will turn out to be true. Any takers? I’ll cash app it when we find out
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And isn't he on parole? He has been out of prison for less than a year after serving almost 20 years for his second Rico murder conviction. You'd think if he is meeting with and actively engaging in murder plots with Mancuso he would have quickly been violated since, as Scott is claiming, the Feds are well aware of these plots and are bringing the heat down on the 5 families.
TommyGambino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:42 am Scott knows the whole admin and has sources inside the Bonnano family and knows details of high level meetings
Badalamenti was "animated".
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Let’s say this is all true ect including the surreal funeral home melee. Even though that was a stupid decision to try and prevent cammarano from attending, if it’s true his guys were beaten, what would be enough for mancuso to save face? A hit in 2023 would be a bad move and it would make sense that majority of the guys around him in his family and the other families strongly advise against it. How would mancuso avoid looking like a “pussy” to the knucklehead soldiers and associates he has around? Chase the cammaranos out of any rackets in nyc? Shooting their house? A beating? What if the cammaranos call his bluff and stick around or try some sort of retaliation to make mancuso look bad? Looks like mancuso is in a tough situation, and it partly his own doing.
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Yeah he's a guy I've thought is a likely candidate for holding an admin position. He was considered consigliere of the Mancuso faction and the main man on the street during the split. Mancuso had sent him a message to take back control of the family from Cammarano.johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:47 amBadalamenti is the real deal, lots of friends and very respected. The top Bonanno in Brooklyn and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Scott’s right about him being the Consigliere.Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:20 am Wondering how this guy is one of Mancuso’s top advisors or he just wasn’t boss material.
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Anthony Rabito could still possibly be the official consigliere depending on how we interpret Peter Lovaglio's testimony. He stated that because of Rabito's advancing age he retained the "title" of consigliere (and Lovaglio was told the position was a lifetime appointment) while John Zancocchio was elected to the "position" to replace him.
It's unclear if Lovaglio was referring to acting and official consigliere or something else (he testified once that he had never heard of an acting consigliere position but also thought Ernie Aiello was acting consigliere in 2012, so that makes it more confusing). His other statements about the position were also quite confusing. According to his testimony, when he was released from prison in late 2011 he was told by Giuseppe Bosco (then the acting boss according to Lovaglio) that Badalamenti was consigliere. When Badalamenti went to prison, Lovaglio was then told (unsure who told him this) that him being consigliere wasn't true and Rabito was the consigliere. His NYPD handler wrote a note that Lovaglio told him Simone Esposito was the consigliere as of January 2015, but on the witness stand Lovaglio couldn't remember this clearly and thought Esposito may have held some kind of acting position. Then there's John Spirito Jr, who Lovaglio says introduced himself as acting consigliere for a day "just for the [induction] ceremony" on John Palazzolo's orders. He describes Rabito as consigliere at the time of Cammarano's election as acting boss in 2015, then says he was informed that Zancocchio was elected to the "position" in 2016, by which point Lovaglio was already on the shelf.
Thomas Carrube testified that he knew Badalamenti was consigliere at some point before he (Carrube) was made, but during the split he held no rank (though he was a Mancuso loyalist and from Carrube's description the head of that faction). Simone Esposito was consigliere (no mention of acting) at the time of Carrube's induction ceremony, and John Zancocchio was the consigliere (no mention of acting, "position", or "title") after Lovaglio flipped when Carrube was reassigned to captain Alphonse DiPilato. Carrube made no mention of Rabito in his testimony.
Associate Steven Sabella also testified that Simone Esposito held the consigliere position and was at one time "the highest ranking Bonanno on the street."
John Pennisi also described Rabito as a consigliere and Mancuso loyalist who sided against Cammarano and Zancocchio when the family split (Pennisi specifically stated it was the Cammarano faction and the Rabito faction). So perhaps Rabito's loyalty was also a factor in Zancocchio being elected to the "position" of consigliere under Cammarano.
It's unclear if Lovaglio was referring to acting and official consigliere or something else (he testified once that he had never heard of an acting consigliere position but also thought Ernie Aiello was acting consigliere in 2012, so that makes it more confusing). His other statements about the position were also quite confusing. According to his testimony, when he was released from prison in late 2011 he was told by Giuseppe Bosco (then the acting boss according to Lovaglio) that Badalamenti was consigliere. When Badalamenti went to prison, Lovaglio was then told (unsure who told him this) that him being consigliere wasn't true and Rabito was the consigliere. His NYPD handler wrote a note that Lovaglio told him Simone Esposito was the consigliere as of January 2015, but on the witness stand Lovaglio couldn't remember this clearly and thought Esposito may have held some kind of acting position. Then there's John Spirito Jr, who Lovaglio says introduced himself as acting consigliere for a day "just for the [induction] ceremony" on John Palazzolo's orders. He describes Rabito as consigliere at the time of Cammarano's election as acting boss in 2015, then says he was informed that Zancocchio was elected to the "position" in 2016, by which point Lovaglio was already on the shelf.
Thomas Carrube testified that he knew Badalamenti was consigliere at some point before he (Carrube) was made, but during the split he held no rank (though he was a Mancuso loyalist and from Carrube's description the head of that faction). Simone Esposito was consigliere (no mention of acting) at the time of Carrube's induction ceremony, and John Zancocchio was the consigliere (no mention of acting, "position", or "title") after Lovaglio flipped when Carrube was reassigned to captain Alphonse DiPilato. Carrube made no mention of Rabito in his testimony.
Associate Steven Sabella also testified that Simone Esposito held the consigliere position and was at one time "the highest ranking Bonanno on the street."
John Pennisi also described Rabito as a consigliere and Mancuso loyalist who sided against Cammarano and Zancocchio when the family split (Pennisi specifically stated it was the Cammarano faction and the Rabito faction). So perhaps Rabito's loyalty was also a factor in Zancocchio being elected to the "position" of consigliere under Cammarano.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:20 pmGold dude.
Love the selective timing for maximum impact.
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