Frank Locascio Evidentiary Hearing.

[mafiastudent]

Well, if you read the above, it clearly states inside that document a difference between new evidence and something else I can't remember right now. I don't believe that any of those previous appeals related to this NEW affidavit from Gravano...because It's NEW.

[Pogo The Clown]

And like I said up it not is not new as both LoCascio and his lawyers knew about at the time of the trial and refused to bring up as his defense.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

And like I said up it not is not new as both LoCascio and his lawyers knew about at the time of the trial and refused to bring up as his defense.


Pogo

Okay. Well, you're not reading what I'm reading....so why don't you get me your source or tell me where this is and I'll read up on it. And if that was the case why would Gravano put in an affidavit in 2018 stating what he did if this all came up before? That doesn't even make sense.

So again, please provide your source of information. Much appreciated.

[Pogo The Clown]

I already did. LoCascio and his lawyers had the opportunity to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder at the trial but they refused. He had the chance to testify to his innocence and or trying to save DiBono and he refused. Of course that is assuming that any of that actually happened and it is not something his parasite lawyers just recently thought up to squeeze some more blood money out of LoCascio.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

I already did. LoCascio and his lawyers had the opportunity to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder at the trial but they refused. He had the chance to testify to his innocence and or trying to save DiBono and he refused. Of course that is assuming that any of that actually happened and it is not something his parasite lawyers just recently thought up to squeeze some more blood money out of LoCascio.


Pogo

Again, you're telling me something without proof of where you got this information. So, look beyond Pogo The Great's Mind, and give me the source.

[Confederate]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

[Pogo The Clown]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


Pogo

[mafiastudent]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


XXXXX

You don't necessarily know that. It all depends on what was and wasn't allowed in pretrial hearings. If the court said they couldn't cross examine they couldn't cross examine. That happens often as can be seen in the case of Crea. So, unless you can show me that that didn't happen...there's a lot of documents on Pacer...and you'd have to look at the trial transcripts for pretrial hearings....there's no proof that they chose not to cross examine.

Pogo

[mafiastudent]

I don't know what happened with that post but here's my response

You don't necessarily know that. It all depends on what was and wasn't allowed in pretrial hearings. If the court said they couldn't cross examine they couldn't cross examine. That happens often as can be seen in the case of Crea. So, unless you can show me that that didn't happen...there's a lot of documents on Pacer...and you'd have to look at the trial transcripts for pretrial hearings....there's no proof that they chose not to cross examine.

[Confederate]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


Pogo

Correct & the only reason they didn't was because LoCascio was guilty as hell & the threat from Gotti never happened. No Defense Lawyer would continue on with the Trial & refuse to report to the Court a direct threat. It would never happen. If anything, the lawyer would simply recuse himself from the Case IF he were really afraid. This is all a bunch of bullshit way after the fact & sounds idiotic.
The bottom line, LoCascio aint goin' nowhere & the defense lawyers are making $$.

[mafiastudent]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


Pogo

Correct & the only reason they didn't was because LoCascio was guilty as hell & the threat from Gotti never happened. No Defense Lawyer would continue on with the Trial & refuse to report to the Court a direct threat. It would never happen. If anything, the lawyer would simply recuse himself from the Case IF he were really afraid. This is all a bunch of bullshit way after the fact & sounds idiotic.
The bottom line, LoCascio aint goin' nowhere & the defense lawyers are making $$.

OR...maybe they weren't allowed to per pretrial court rulings.

[Confederate]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


Pogo

Correct & the only reason they didn't was because LoCascio was guilty as hell & the threat from Gotti never happened. No Defense Lawyer would continue on with the Trial & refuse to report to the Court a direct threat. It would never happen. If anything, the lawyer would simply recuse himself from the Case IF he were really afraid. This is all a bunch of bullshit way after the fact & sounds idiotic.
The bottom line, LoCascio aint goin' nowhere & the defense lawyers are making $$.

OR...maybe they weren't allowed to per pretrial court rulings.

Of course Gravano was cross examined. What are you talking about? They went at Gravano very hard.

[mafiastudent]

So, if this was really all true, then LoCascio's lawyers should have been "sanctioned" & "disbarred" for NOT reporting a threat to the Court.

In addition, it would not have mattered. LoCascio would have been convicted under RICO anyway, whether he agreed with the murder or wanted Gotti to take the money instead of killing DIBono. The minute DiBono was killed sealed LoCascio's fate. The Prosecutors only followed the provisions of the RICO Statute & presented it very successfully to the Jury.

LoCascio is not going anywhere & the only people benefitting now are his defense lawyers.

Correct. Especially the first part. From LoCascio's conclusion.

CONCLUSION
Mr. LoCascio is innocent of murdering Louis DiBono in order to maintain his
role in the Gambino family, a crime for which Mr. LoCascio is serving a life
sentence. The Court should hold an evidentiary hearing at which Gravano, the
government’s star witness in the case, can testify about new evidence that the jury
never heard. That record would permit this Court to evaluate Mr. LoCascio’s claims,
which if proven, would clearly entitle him to habeas relief.

The only reason the jury never heard this supposed evidence is because LoCascio and his lawyers refused to cross examine Gravano about his (LoCascio) trying to save DiBono and or his non-involvement in the murder. He also had the chance to bring it up himself by testifying in his own defense but he refused.


Pogo

Correct & the only reason they didn't was because LoCascio was guilty as hell & the threat from Gotti never happened. No Defense Lawyer would continue on with the Trial & refuse to report to the Court a direct threat. It would never happen. If anything, the lawyer would simply recuse himself from the Case IF he were really afraid. This is all a bunch of bullshit way after the fact & sounds idiotic.
The bottom line, LoCascio aint goin' nowhere & the defense lawyers are making $$.

OR...maybe they weren't allowed to per pretrial court rulings.

Of course Gravano was cross examined. What are you talking about? They went at Gravano very hard.

Do you understand what pretrial hearings are for? IN those hearings both sides present reasons/evidence as to what can and can't be questioned and the court rules. So, for example in Crea's case, the defense wasn't allowed to cross examine informants on certain things. So if the government filed a motion to prevent Locascio's lawyers from cross examining Gravano on that specific issue and the judge ruled on the government's side, Locascio wouldn't be allowed to cross examine. It can also happen as the trial goes along....the government might see or the defense that certain things aren't going their way and will file motions to prevent certain questions from being asked or subjects from being brought up.

[mafiastudent]

They'll cite all sorts of case law to support their reasoning and from that the judge makes their decision on whether to allow a certain thread of questioning.

[Confederate]

They'll cite all sorts of case law to support their reasoning and from that the judge makes their decision on whether to allow a certain thread of questioning.

But that never happened. Gravano was cross examined very thoroughly. Prove that the Defense agreed ahead of time to NOT Cross examine Gravano on something that would "possibly" help exonerate their Client??? You sound like an idiot. The whole Defense team would be sanctioned, possibly disbarred & might as well work for the Prosecution for Christ's sake.