FBI File Frustrations

[Frank]

I know Rockford is still a viable Family

That was actually a big arguement on the old forums.


Pogo

Ah gotcha. There are still guys around Rockford from the old days. I'm particularly interested in their time period from 1971 to the mid 1990s. Info on those years is very scarce and I was hoping this FBI sub file would open things up.

Just joking because I was reading the Buffalo thread, for months now. I'm kind of in the middle with that. I think it's what your definition of a viable family is. It looks like there is something going on there, but to what extent.

[B.]

From what I understand there has been a move to slow down these requests and I question how much objective oversight there is in terms of fulfilling requests -- they could easily say an investigation is ongoing to nip a request and who is going to question it?

A list got leaked not long ago of the FBI's most "vexsome" FOIA requesters, meaning people who annoy them by requesting the most files. The language and nature of the list is a clear indication of how they feel about these requests.

I say keep at it if you can, brother. Something is bound to come through.

[Snakes]

From what I understand there has been a move to slow down these requests and I question how much objective oversight there is in terms of fulfilling requests -- they could easily say an investigation is ongoing to nip a request and who is going to question it?

A list got leaked not long ago of the FBI's most "vexsome" FOIA requesters, meaning people who annoy them by requesting the most files. The language and nature of the list is a clear indication of how they feel about these requests.

I say keep at it if you can, brother. Something is bound to come through.

I was on that list

[Antiliar]

From what I understand there has been a move to slow down these requests and I question how much objective oversight there is in terms of fulfilling requests -- they could easily say an investigation is ongoing to nip a request and who is going to question it?

A list got leaked not long ago of the FBI's most "vexsome" FOIA requesters, meaning people who annoy them by requesting the most files. The language and nature of the list is a clear indication of how they feel about these requests.

I say keep at it if you can, brother. Something is bound to come through.

I was on that list

Yes you were:
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/ ... -who-foia/

[Stroccos]

From what I understand there has been a move to slow down these requests and I question how much objective oversight there is in terms of fulfilling requests -- they could easily say an investigation is ongoing to nip a request and who is going to question it?

A list got leaked not long ago of the FBI's most "vexsome" FOIA requesters, meaning people who annoy them by requesting the most files. The language and nature of the list is a clear indication of how they feel about these requests.

I say keep at it if you can, brother. Something is bound to come through.

I was on that list

Yes you were:
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/ ... -who-foia/

I am still waiting for my own personal file. its been years. I am starting to think I am red flagged or something.

[bert]

The Muckrack link is interesting, I can see how people asking for close to or over 100 files can be considered a nuisance, but requesting a dozen or less files should not be a problem. I clicked on the highlighted names of 2 of the people listed and wound up on their twitter site, which is not what I expected.

[500YearReign]

From what I understand there has been a move to slow down these requests and I question how much objective oversight there is in terms of fulfilling requests -- they could easily say an investigation is ongoing to nip a request and who is going to question it?

A list got leaked not long ago of the FBI's most "vexsome" FOIA requesters, meaning people who annoy them by requesting the most files. The language and nature of the list is a clear indication of how they feel about these requests.

I say keep at it if you can, brother. Something is bound to come through.

I was on that list

Yes you were:
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/ ... -who-foia/

I am still waiting for my own personal file. its been years. I am starting to think I am red flagged or something.

They have denied me, my personal file in its entirety. Almost every exception has been used in the statute through several requests and have also been "glomar" by the FBI.

[cavita]

At the same time, two years ago this month, I requested an LCN member's FBI file. He was active from the 1950s until his death in 1980, so there had better be none of this "compromising law enforcement investigation" or any of that shit.

[Antiliar]

At the same time, two years ago this month, I requested an LCN member's FBI file. He was active from the 1950s until his death in 1980, so there had better be none of this "compromising law enforcement investigation" or any of that shit.

Chuck Nicoletti was killed in 1977 and that's exactly why they won't release his file.

[bert]

At the same time, two years ago this month, I requested an LCN member's FBI file. He was active from the 1950s until his death in 1980, so there had better be none of this "compromising law enforcement investigation" or any of that shit.

Chuck Nicoletti was killed in 1977 and that's exactly why they won't release his file.

Even with redactions?

[Snakes]

At the same time, two years ago this month, I requested an LCN member's FBI file. He was active from the 1950s until his death in 1980, so there had better be none of this "compromising law enforcement investigation" or any of that shit.

Chuck Nicoletti was killed in 1977 and that's exactly why they won't release his file.

Even with redactions?

They claim it is still an active case. I think it has something to do with the JFK files being released. It may be one if the last holdouts in that regard.

[Antiliar]

It sounded like they're planning an active prosecution, but I don't know who they would go after, after all these years. Maybe Vena, but by the time they get around to indictments he'll be dead.

[Confederate]

The Muckrack link is interesting, I can see how people asking for close to or over 100 files can be considered a nuisance, but requesting a dozen or less files should not be a problem. I clicked on the highlighted names of 2 of the people listed and wound up on their twitter site, which is not what I expected.

Yes, the same thing happened to me when I clicked on the highlighted names about a week ago. I wonder why Muckrack directs you to that person's twitter site or facebook? Seems strange?

[Lefty_Ruggiero]

I feel your pain, cavita. The only person I know of who sued and won was Angela Clemente, who had a high-powered lawyer who was an expert in the FOIPA law. She obtained the release of the Greg Scarpa files, but they were still heavily redacted.

I think she appealed it and got a second batch with less redactions, but they still take out too much.

What's the proper route when filing an appeal? Just typing a letter saying, "Hey, these records are 30 years old, what ongoing investigation could it jeopardize?"

I can help you out, check your PM.

Hey snakes can you PM me what to exactly state regarding appeals for future searches ? I FOIA requested files on Lufthansa suspect Angelo Sepe, it has been granted still waiting on files though, been like 9 months already.

[maxiestern11]

At the same time, two years ago this month, I requested an LCN member's FBI file. He was active from the 1950s until his death in 1980, so there had better be none of this "compromising law enforcement investigation" or any of that shit.

They are full of BS